Anonymous
Post 10/15/2024 08:55     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


I don't believe you can treat any club with separate locations in the aggregate. NCAP has many locations in Maryland and Virginia. Also, some NCAP locations have age caps, while others don't. For example, NCAP HA only allows swimmers up to a certain age, then they have to move to NCAP AU (which is why many switch to NCAP GP). RMSC has its main location (very hard to get into), but then has RMSC KSAC (under renovation, now in SS - easier to get into), and a few others. By contrast, ASA has one location and is one club broken into different age and skill groups.


Oh, totally. It’s too bad the broken down numbers aren’t readily accessible. All the extra large and large clubs have many locations, with the exception of Makos and AAC (and ASA, it seems). Even NCAP-West had a few locations, whereas NCAP-Burke, NCAP-CM, and NCAP-DS are self-contained.


AAC has 3 locations.


But they all end up at Long Bridge and it is the lower groups (and just a few of them) at the high schools. All their best groups/coaches are at Long Bridge. There was a stink by some parents that didn't want to drive out of their neighborhood for their age group swimmers. The joke is on them, in the sense that these kids are now kind of forgotten at the high schools.
Anonymous
Post 10/15/2024 08:46     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


I don't believe you can treat any club with separate locations in the aggregate. NCAP has many locations in Maryland and Virginia. Also, some NCAP locations have age caps, while others don't. For example, NCAP HA only allows swimmers up to a certain age, then they have to move to NCAP AU (which is why many switch to NCAP GP). RMSC has its main location (very hard to get into), but then has RMSC KSAC (under renovation, now in SS - easier to get into), and a few others. By contrast, ASA has one location and is one club broken into different age and skill groups.


Oh, totally. It’s too bad the broken down numbers aren’t readily accessible. All the extra large and large clubs have many locations, with the exception of Makos and AAC (and ASA, it seems). Even NCAP-West had a few locations, whereas NCAP-Burke, NCAP-CM, and NCAP-DS are self-contained.


AAC has 3 locations.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 17:20     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Extra Large - Marlins (720)

Large - PAC (420), FXFX (320), SDS (450), Tollefson (300)

Medium - STJ (250), BWST (150), CSC (220), Herndon (175), Tiburones (125)

Small - PGPR (80), Shark Tank (50), Suburban Aquatics (70), APEX (27), Dragon (85),



Marlins is that big? I would have thought them to be better.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 17:05     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


I don't believe you can treat any club with separate locations in the aggregate. NCAP has many locations in Maryland and Virginia. Also, some NCAP locations have age caps, while others don't. For example, NCAP HA only allows swimmers up to a certain age, then they have to move to NCAP AU (which is why many switch to NCAP GP). RMSC has its main location (very hard to get into), but then has RMSC KSAC (under renovation, now in SS - easier to get into), and a few others. By contrast, ASA has one location and is one club broken into different age and skill groups.


Oh, totally. It’s too bad the broken down numbers aren’t readily accessible. All the extra large and large clubs have many locations, with the exception of Makos and AAC (and ASA, it seems). Even NCAP-West had a few locations, whereas NCAP-Burke, NCAP-CM, and NCAP-DS are self-contained.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 17:02     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
And NOVA in Richmond is like 1050-1100 and TIDE is 775-800. VA/MD are huge swim states.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 16:58     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


I don't believe you can treat any club with separate locations in the aggregate. NCAP has many locations in Maryland and Virginia. Also, some NCAP locations have age caps, while others don't. For example, NCAP HA only allows swimmers up to a certain age, then they have to move to NCAP AU (which is why many switch to NCAP GP). RMSC has its main location (very hard to get into), but then has RMSC KSAC (under renovation, now in SS - easier to get into), and a few others. By contrast, ASA has one location and is one club broken into different age and skill groups.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 16:54     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Are these numbers published somewhere?


Most of the swim stats sites have a place where you can click on the club and scroll to the bottom to see the number of total swimmers.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 16:52     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Extra Large - Marlins (720)

Large - PAC (420), FXFX (320), SDS (450), Tollefson (300)

Medium - STJ (250), BWST (150), CSC (220), Herndon (175), Tiburones (125)

Small - PGPR (80), Shark Tank (50), Suburban Aquatics (70), APEX (27), Dragon (85),
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 16:52     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Small is 1-75, medium 76-200, large 201-500, and extra large 500+. Those are the ranges set by USA Swimming.


I would have through a medium club would be bigger. 200 is small and if you were a talented swimmer the chances of a cohort that is your age would be slim.


USA Swimming is covering the entire country, including rural places and places where swimming isn’t much of a thing. Maybe if they were only categorizing the extremely dense PVS region, they’d have chosen differently.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 16:51     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Are these numbers published somewhere?
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 16:39     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:Small is 1-75, medium 76-200, large 201-500, and extra large 500+. Those are the ranges set by USA Swimming.


I would have through a medium club would be bigger. 200 is small and if you were a talented swimmer the chances of a cohort that is your age would be slim.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 16:38     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Anonymous wrote:Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)


Wow.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 16:36     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Behemoth - NCAP (2400), RMSC (1800), Machine (1400)
Extra large - York (800), AAC (700), OCCS (670), Makos (650)
Large - FISH (360), ASA (320)
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 16:20     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Small is 1-75, medium 76-200, large 201-500, and extra large 500+. Those are the ranges set by USA Swimming.
Anonymous
Post 10/14/2024 15:57     Subject: What are the bigger clubs?
Reading another post I started wondering what were the bigger clubs, mid-size and small clubs in the area. And what constitutes a "bigger" club in numbers?