Anonymous wrote:As someone who is is classified as either moderate or center left by those various tests you can do, I don’t trust any of them any more. It has become obvious to me that the major news organizations are as unreliable and untruthful as their far-left and far-right peers. I trust the NYT as much as I trust the Daily Mail now, which is to say not at all.

I read NYT, WSJ, Al-Jazeera, Guardian, Times (UK), Economist, Wash Post, Daily Mail, NY Post, Daily Wire, Vox, and more. I don’t credit any of them with truth. I also read Twitter, both left- and right-wing.

Sometimes I think I can piece together the underlying facts. But sometimes I’m convinced I’m just not learning the truth at all.

It is depressing.

I don’t think any of the sources you list- other than Twitter of course- lie. It’s rather omission or slant.

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Anonymous wrote:Thoughts?. I lean left and like to read different sources, but I do find myself mostly reading the NYT, Wapo, WSJ and listening to CNN and BBC. I recently told dh that I listen to AJ too and he immediately dismissed it. But I don’t find it to be overly biased at all, certainly not ‘terrorist’.

Thoughts?

So NYT, WSJ and CNN are totally and completely pro Israeli. Their reporting consists of picking up the talking points from Israeli media specialists and publishing it.

Op. This is why I started listening to AJ

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who is is classified as either moderate or center left by those various tests you can do, I don’t trust any of them any more. It has become obvious to me that the major news organizations are as unreliable and untruthful as their far-left and far-right peers. I trust the NYT as much as I trust the Daily Mail now, which is to say not at all.

I read NYT, WSJ, Al-Jazeera, Guardian, Times (UK), Economist, Wash Post, Daily Mail, NY Post, Daily Wire, Vox, and more. I don’t credit any of them with truth. I also read Twitter, both left- and right-wing.

Sometimes I think I can piece together the underlying facts. But sometimes I’m convinced I’m just not learning the truth at all.

It is depressing.

The bolded is a gross exaggeration.

I agree with the general point, but the BBC is FAR more reliable and truthful than Newsmax (for example).

Twitter doesn't belong in the conversation.

I used to believe that the BBC was reliable. I no longer do. I do not trust it any more than Newsmax, frankly.

And Twitter is the only place where facts that have been suppressed by mainstream media can be found. Now, some of those facts are not actually facts, of course. But some are.

Cite?

I think one good example of this is the critical analysis of the weakness of the studies used to justify medical transition of children. I read those studies years ago, at the request of a friend whose child was considering transition, because my training is data analysis and management. I was absolutely shocked at how shoddy they were, but any critical analysis of those studies was tightly suppressed by mainstream reporting for years, due to political activism from far left trans activists. The only place where that weakness was being discussed in a serious manner was Twitter, years before mainstream media would touch the issue.

There are others examples as well, but I think that is one of the most egregious recent examples.

Anonymous wrote:Thoughts?. I lean left and like to read different sources, but I do find myself mostly reading the NYT, Wapo, WSJ and listening to CNN and BBC. I recently told dh that I listen to AJ too and he immediately dismissed it. But I don’t find it to be overly biased at all, certainly not ‘terrorist’.

Thoughts?

It always seems light on info and heavy on lies of omission when I try to read it.

My FIL is turkish and the "news" he reads in native tongue is WILD.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who is is classified as either moderate or center left by those various tests you can do, I don’t trust any of them any more. It has become obvious to me that the major news organizations are as unreliable and untruthful as their far-left and far-right peers. I trust the NYT as much as I trust the Daily Mail now, which is to say not at all.

I read NYT, WSJ, Al-Jazeera, Guardian, Times (UK), Economist, Wash Post, Daily Mail, NY Post, Daily Wire, Vox, and more. I don’t credit any of them with truth. I also read Twitter, both left- and right-wing.

Sometimes I think I can piece together the underlying facts. But sometimes I’m convinced I’m just not learning the truth at all.

It is depressing.

The bolded is a gross exaggeration.

I agree with the general point, but the BBC is FAR more reliable and truthful than Newsmax (for example).

Twitter doesn't belong in the conversation.

I used to believe that the BBC was reliable. I no longer do. I do not trust it any more than Newsmax, frankly.

And Twitter is the only place where facts that have been suppressed by mainstream media can be found. Now, some of those facts are not actually facts, of course. But some are.

I stopped reading FT too, Its 80% OpEds and zero facts or info.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who is is classified as either moderate or center left by those various tests you can do, I don’t trust any of them any more. It has become obvious to me that the major news organizations are as unreliable and untruthful as their far-left and far-right peers. I trust the NYT as much as I trust the Daily Mail now, which is to say not at all.

I read NYT, WSJ, Al-Jazeera, Guardian, Times (UK), Economist, Wash Post, Daily Mail, NY Post, Daily Wire, Vox, and more. I don’t credit any of them with truth. I also read Twitter, both left- and right-wing.

Sometimes I think I can piece together the underlying facts. But sometimes I’m convinced I’m just not learning the truth at all.

It is depressing.

The bolded is a gross exaggeration.

I agree with the general point, but the BBC is FAR more reliable and truthful than Newsmax (for example).

Twitter doesn't belong in the conversation.

I used to believe that the BBC was reliable. I no longer do. I do not trust it any more than Newsmax, frankly.

And Twitter is the only place where facts that have been suppressed by mainstream media can be found. Now, some of those facts are not actually facts, of course. But some are.

You're flat out mistaken.

1. Media outlets are subject to potential legal consequences. For all practical purposes, Twitter users are not. This alone creates an entirely different standard of care and quality of product.

2. Different media outlets have completely different journalistic processes and standards. If you don't understand both the reality and the import of this, you need to do some reading.

Is the institutional media perfect? No.

Is it unbiased? No.

Is it FAR more reliable than the far left or far right "media"? Unequivocally.

Be informed.

Anonymous wrote:Thoughts?. I lean left and like to read different sources, but I do find myself mostly reading the NYT, Wapo, WSJ and listening to CNN and BBC. I recently told dh that I listen to AJ too and he immediately dismissed it. But I don’t find it to be overly biased at all, certainly not ‘terrorist’.

Thoughts?

So NYT, WSJ and CNN are totally and completely pro Israeli. Their reporting consists of picking up the talking points from Israeli media specialists and publishing it.

I read CNN, apnews, Reuters AND Al Jazeera. I rarely read Fox News.

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who is is classified as either moderate or center left by those various tests you can do, I don’t trust any of them any more. It has become obvious to me that the major news organizations are as unreliable and untruthful as their far-left and far-right peers. I trust the NYT as much as I trust the Daily Mail now, which is to say not at all.

I read NYT, WSJ, Al-Jazeera, Guardian, Times (UK), Economist, Wash Post, Daily Mail, NY Post, Daily Wire, Vox, and more. I don’t credit any of them with truth. I also read Twitter, both left- and right-wing.

Sometimes I think I can piece together the underlying facts. But sometimes I’m convinced I’m just not learning the truth at all.

It is depressing.

The bolded is a gross exaggeration.

I agree with the general point, but the BBC is FAR more reliable and truthful than Newsmax (for example).

Twitter doesn't belong in the conversation.

I used to believe that the BBC was reliable. I no longer do. I do not trust it any more than Newsmax, frankly.

And Twitter is the only place where facts that have been suppressed by mainstream media can be found. Now, some of those facts are not actually facts, of course. But some are.

Cite?

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Anonymous wrote:As someone who is is classified as either moderate or center left by those various tests you can do, I don’t trust any of them any more. It has become obvious to me that the major news organizations are as unreliable and untruthful as their far-left and far-right peers. I trust the NYT as much as I trust the Daily Mail now, which is to say not at all.

I read NYT, WSJ, Al-Jazeera, Guardian, Times (UK), Economist, Wash Post, Daily Mail, NY Post, Daily Wire, Vox, and more. I don’t credit any of them with truth. I also read Twitter, both left- and right-wing.

Sometimes I think I can piece together the underlying facts. But sometimes I’m convinced I’m just not learning the truth at all.

It is depressing.

The bolded is a gross exaggeration.

I agree with the general point, but the BBC is FAR more reliable and truthful than Newsmax (for example).

Twitter doesn't belong in the conversation.

I used to believe that the BBC was reliable. I no longer do. I do not trust it any more than Newsmax, frankly.

And Twitter is the only place where facts that have been suppressed by mainstream media can be found. Now, some of those facts are not actually facts, of course. But some are.

Anonymous wrote:As someone who is is classified as either moderate or center left by those various tests you can do, I don’t trust any of them any more. It has become obvious to me that the major news organizations are as unreliable and untruthful as their far-left and far-right peers. I trust the NYT as much as I trust the Daily Mail now, which is to say not at all.

I read NYT, WSJ, Al-Jazeera, Guardian, Times (UK), Economist, Wash Post, Daily Mail, NY Post, Daily Wire, Vox, and more. I don’t credit any of them with truth. I also read Twitter, both left- and right-wing.

Sometimes I think I can piece together the underlying facts. But sometimes I’m convinced I’m just not learning the truth at all.

It is depressing.

The bolded is a gross exaggeration.

I agree with the general point, but the BBC is FAR more reliable and truthful than Newsmax (for example).

Twitter doesn't belong in the conversation.

Al Jazeera leans slightly left. It is a Qatari government news organization, even if it is privately held. I read it, but I often fact check it. They also tend to support Hamas, and I do not.

Having said that, I think it is imperative we all read a variety of news sources, but that we also engage in regular fact-checking from primary sources when possible.

As someone who is is classified as either moderate or center left by those various tests you can do, I don’t trust any of them any more. It has become obvious to me that the major news organizations are as unreliable and untruthful as their far-left and far-right peers. I trust the NYT as much as I trust the Daily Mail now, which is to say not at all.

I read NYT, WSJ, Al-Jazeera, Guardian, Times (UK), Economist, Wash Post, Daily Mail, NY Post, Daily Wire, Vox, and more. I don’t credit any of them with truth. I also read Twitter, both left- and right-wing.

Sometimes I think I can piece together the underlying facts. But sometimes I’m convinced I’m just not learning the truth at all.

It is depressing.

It’s reliable. Who told you it wasn’t? Check media bias check.

Thoughts?. I lean left and like to read different sources, but I do find myself mostly reading the NYT, Wapo, WSJ and listening to CNN and BBC. I recently told dh that I listen to AJ too and he immediately dismissed it. But I don’t find it to be overly biased at all, certainly not ‘terrorist’.

Thoughts?