Anonymous
10/02/2024 09:27
Subject: Re:Redshirt in soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand why someone would make their kid spend an extra year in school and at home for a perceived marginal advantage in a sport.
If your kid is having serious academic, social or emotional issues, sure. If not, you really need to reassess your priorities.
I know of several baseball family who do it. Maybe there is an advantage in baseball so they can make the HS baseball team then hopefully college?
well baseball isn't soccer. kids playing soccer have to be on a club team to get recruited and clubs go by birth year. kids playing baseball, basketball or football can get recruited just by playing high school sports so holding them back might be an advantage
Football yes. Basketball and baseball travel more and farther and those AAU and travel teams are where the recruiting happens. The exception are the private schools in the area like Dematha like Paul VI that recruit athletes to come play. You're not playing public school sports and getting recruited for any sport except football in today’s world.
People say how soccer is different and needs to be fixed here. But really soccer in the US is similar to every other sport with clubs, pay to play, etc. Except football which truly is unique because it’s the most popular sport here.
If you don't have value to add, just watching from sidelines is fine.
Anonymous
10/02/2024 09:07
Subject: Re:Redshirt in soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand why someone would make their kid spend an extra year in school and at home for a perceived marginal advantage in a sport.
If your kid is having serious academic, social or emotional issues, sure. If not, you really need to reassess your priorities.
I know of several baseball family who do it. Maybe there is an advantage in baseball so they can make the HS baseball team then hopefully college?
well baseball isn't soccer. kids playing soccer have to be on a club team to get recruited and clubs go by birth year. kids playing baseball, basketball or football can get recruited just by playing high school sports so holding them back might be an advantage
Football yes. Basketball and baseball travel more and farther and those AAU and travel teams are where the recruiting happens. The exception are the private schools in the area like Dematha like Paul VI that recruit athletes to come play. You're not playing public school sports and getting recruited for any sport except football in today’s world.
People say how soccer is different and needs to be fixed here. But really soccer in the US is similar to every other sport with clubs, pay to play, etc. Except football which truly is unique because it’s the most popular sport here.
Anonymous
10/02/2024 08:54
Subject: Re:Redshirt in soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand why someone would make their kid spend an extra year in school and at home for a perceived marginal advantage in a sport.
If your kid is having serious academic, social or emotional issues, sure. If not, you really need to reassess your priorities.
I know of several baseball family who do it. Maybe there is an advantage in baseball so they can make the HS baseball team then hopefully college?
well baseball isn't soccer. kids playing soccer have to be on a club team to get recruited and clubs go by birth year. kids playing baseball, basketball or football can get recruited just by playing high school sports so holding them back might be an advantage
Football yes. Basketball and baseball travel more and farther and those AAU and travel teams are where the recruiting happens. The exception are the private schools in the area like Dematha like Paul VI that recruit athletes to come play. You're not playing public school sports and getting recruited for any sport except football in todays world.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 23:06
Subject: Re:Redshirt in soccer
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand why someone would make their kid spend an extra year in school and at home for a perceived marginal advantage in a sport.
If your kid is having serious academic, social or emotional issues, sure. If not, you really need to reassess your priorities.
I know of several baseball family who do it. Maybe there is an advantage in baseball so they can make the HS baseball team then hopefully college?
well baseball isn't soccer. kids playing soccer have to be on a club team to get recruited and clubs go by birth year. kids playing baseball, basketball or football can get recruited just by playing high school sports so holding them back might be an advantage
Anonymous
10/01/2024 20:32
Subject: Redshirt in soccer
Anonymous wrote:We were looking at the roster of a top college men's soccer team during a game that was recently on TV. A lot of the players, maybe even most, had played in the USL for a couple of years prior to joining the college team. I don't think redshirting is going to make much of a difference if the key to getting recruited is playing in a pro league first.
Good point. That is essentially the hockey model.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 19:17
Subject: Redshirt in soccer
We were looking at the roster of a top college men's soccer team during a game that was recently on TV. A lot of the players, maybe even most, had played in the USL for a couple of years prior to joining the college team. I don't think redshirting is going to make much of a difference if the key to getting recruited is playing in a pro league first.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 18:53
Subject: Redshirt in soccer
Anonymous wrote:In college soccer the kids are all fully grown so it doesn't really matter if they are a year older or younger. Their playing ability is what matters.
As far as holding a kid back just for some possible advantage in the younger years? There is just as good a chance that not holding them back gives them more advantage. Maybe the players on the team are better or worse, or it means having a different coach, or they won't be challenged enough at an early age, or too much, or there are social issues by being older or younger than teammates.
The point is it's impossible to foresee how delaying a year will impact a single child. If you are considering it just for soccer maybe you should re-evaluate your priorities.
Well it matters for recruiting. My kids were late bloomers. They kept growing until 20. If I hadn’t redshirted they would have been even tinier as juniors. It was senior year before they had really progressed.
But colleges now like older gap year kids and upper classmen in the transfer portal. The numbers of recruited make freshmen are shrinking
Anonymous
10/01/2024 16:18
Subject: Re:Redshirt in soccer
Anonymous wrote:I can’t understand why someone would make their kid spend an extra year in school and at home for a perceived marginal advantage in a sport.
If your kid is having serious academic, social or emotional issues, sure. If not, you really need to reassess your priorities.
I know of several baseball family who do it. Maybe there is an advantage in baseball so they can make the HS baseball team then hopefully college?
Anonymous
10/01/2024 14:13
Subject: Redshirt in soccer
Every player is different. The parent in another thread essentially said their 4th quarter daughter committed to D1 year early (summer before junior year), while a majority of her teammates committed the summer before senior year. It would appear that the "trapped player" used that status to her advantage. She was able to navigate college recruiting with her team a year before the other Sophomores who were playing a birth year below.
But, if that 4th quarter birth player were to be held back, that might offer an advantage, especially if the player was behind 'physically.' It depends on the player. It's not exactly normal, but it might work for a minority ok kids perhaps?
But, if that 4th quarter birth player were to be held back, that might offer an advantage, especially if the player was behind 'physically.' It depends on the player. It's not exactly normal, but it might work for a minority ok kids perhaps?
Anonymous
10/01/2024 14:01
Subject: Redshirt in soccer
Some good advice and then some judgement...thanks...
Anonymous
10/01/2024 13:59
Subject: Redshirt in soccer
In college soccer the kids are all fully grown so it doesn't really matter if they are a year older or younger. Their playing ability is what matters.
As far as holding a kid back just for some possible advantage in the younger years? There is just as good a chance that not holding them back gives them more advantage. Maybe the players on the team are better or worse, or it means having a different coach, or they won't be challenged enough at an early age, or too much, or there are social issues by being older or younger than teammates.
The point is it's impossible to foresee how delaying a year will impact a single child. If you are considering it just for soccer maybe you should re-evaluate your priorities.
As far as holding a kid back just for some possible advantage in the younger years? There is just as good a chance that not holding them back gives them more advantage. Maybe the players on the team are better or worse, or it means having a different coach, or they won't be challenged enough at an early age, or too much, or there are social issues by being older or younger than teammates.
The point is it's impossible to foresee how delaying a year will impact a single child. If you are considering it just for soccer maybe you should re-evaluate your priorities.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 13:36
Subject: Re:Redshirt in soccer
No, no advantage.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 13:32
Subject: Re:Redshirt in soccer
I can’t understand why someone would make their kid spend an extra year in school and at home for a perceived marginal advantage in a sport.
If your kid is having serious academic, social or emotional issues, sure. If not, you really need to reassess your priorities.
If your kid is having serious academic, social or emotional issues, sure. If not, you really need to reassess your priorities.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 13:30
Subject: Redshirt in soccer
Anonymous wrote:Is there an advantage of redshirting a player in soccer? Looks like not, they risk of being the trapped kid being 8th grade instead of playing HS at 9th grade. How about college? Does that increase or decrease the chances of playing college soccer.
how would you redshirt your child? Do you mean holding back your child in school (that's not redshirting btw)? it will have ZERO impact on increasing or decreasing their chances of playing college soccer because Club soccer is by birth year and high school soccer doesn't matter.
Anonymous
10/01/2024 13:25
Subject: Redshirt in soccer
Is there an advantage of redshirting a player in soccer? Looks like not, they risk of being the trapped kid being 8th grade instead of playing HS at 9th grade. How about college? Does that increase or decrease the chances of playing college soccer.