Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 13:55     Subject: Re:Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:My guess is OP feels threatened.


+1000
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 13:54     Subject: Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We’ve had a contractor on our team who I’ve worked with closely for the past 6 months. In that time we have become friendly (both females). My manager, who barely works directly with her, wants to bring her on as a FTE. Here’s the thing— she would be a bad hire. In the time I’ve spent with her, I see the kinds of games she plays, and it’s not pretty. She likes to stir things up. She would be difficult to manage and the quality of her work product is not where it needs to be. I was hoping her time with us would end once her contract is up, but my clueless manager has complicated things. I’ve spoken up to my manager and let her know the situation so she can stop getting the contractor’s hopes up that she will continue with us.

I have to have the tough conversation (which I was hoping to avoid) with the contractor about her not being a good fit. What is a tactful / thoughtful way to break the news to her?


A tactful way to tell her that you torpedoed her chances at a full-time position at your organization? You sound like a pot stirrer, too, OP.


+1 LOL, no wonder they’re friendly.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 13:53     Subject: Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:Don't have the conversation. Tell the contracting company that she no longer is needed on your job. Its their job to find her other work and deliver any unhappy news.


I’m the PP. This is best but it doesn’t always work out like that. She’s going to want to talk to you about it, even if she hears it first from her employer.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 13:52     Subject: Do not want to hire her
Don’t hire her. Ignore the PPs who are saying you are in the wrong. A bad fit is a misery, and a shit-stirrer at work is poison. If your boss is on board with your decision, then you’re good. You don’t need to tell the contractor the reason why. Just say you decided not to convert the contract position to FTE. If she pushes you and you need to give her reasons, just focus on the work quality reasons, which are objective things you can point to. Don’t bring up the personal dynamics.

Your organization did the right thing in taking contract period to see if the person would be a good FTE. On to someone else who would be good in the job.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 13:49     Subject: Re:Do not want to hire her
Over the six months she’s been working on your project has she been made aware that her work isn’t meeting expectations? Have you expressed that to your boss who could have mentioned it to the contractor?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 13:47     Subject: Re:Do not want to hire her
I’m not threatened in the least bit. I’ll have to carry more work load if she’s hired. Not fair to me. Plus she likes to start drama and is not above lying to cover her as. What is not right about not hiring her?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 13:46     Subject: Do not want to hire her
Like the PP said, let the contracting company do it for you. Don't hire someone you don't have a positive opinion of. It will only get worse.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 13:36     Subject: Do not want to hire her
Don't have the conversation. Tell the contracting company that she no longer is needed on your job. Its their job to find her other work and deliver any unhappy news.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 12:49     Subject: Re:Do not want to hire her
My guess is OP feels threatened.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 12:49     Subject: Do not want to hire her
Key to a good working environment is not bringing in this type person. Would not provide any information about why not bringing her in. Don’t need to justify.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 12:48     Subject: Do not want to hire her
Anonymous wrote:We’ve had a contractor on our team who I’ve worked with closely for the past 6 months. In that time we have become friendly (both females). My manager, who barely works directly with her, wants to bring her on as a FTE. Here’s the thing— she would be a bad hire. In the time I’ve spent with her, I see the kinds of games she plays, and it’s not pretty. She likes to stir things up. She would be difficult to manage and the quality of her work product is not where it needs to be. I was hoping her time with us would end once her contract is up, but my clueless manager has complicated things. I’ve spoken up to my manager and let her know the situation so she can stop getting the contractor’s hopes up that she will continue with us.

I have to have the tough conversation (which I was hoping to avoid) with the contractor about her not being a good fit. What is a tactful / thoughtful way to break the news to her?


A tactful way to tell her that you torpedoed her chances at a full-time position at your organization? You sound like a pot stirrer, too, OP.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 12:45     Subject: Do not want to hire her
I think OP is doing a good thing here. It this lady is a lot stirrer, that could cause tons of drama. And her work isn’t good. Why would they hire her? Very shortsighted of PP who wouldn’t want to nip this in the bud.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 12:44     Subject: Do not want to hire her
Could you bring her in and then tell her she needs to step it up as a FTE of your organization?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 12:42     Subject: Do not want to hire her
You sound horrible. Actively trying to prevent this person from being hired? Most people would mind their own business here, and you don't want to do that. Says more about you than about her.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2024 12:31     Subject: Do not want to hire her
We’ve had a contractor on our team who I’ve worked with closely for the past 6 months. In that time we have become friendly (both females). My manager, who barely works directly with her, wants to bring her on as a FTE. Here’s the thing— she would be a bad hire. In the time I’ve spent with her, I see the kinds of games she plays, and it’s not pretty. She likes to stir things up. She would be difficult to manage and the quality of her work product is not where it needs to be. I was hoping her time with us would end once her contract is up, but my clueless manager has complicated things. I’ve spoken up to my manager and let her know the situation so she can stop getting the contractor’s hopes up that she will continue with us.

I have to have the tough conversation (which I was hoping to avoid) with the contractor about her not being a good fit. What is a tactful / thoughtful way to break the news to her?