Anonymous
Post 09/25/2024 18:40     Subject: Addition recovery + snark

Don’t let these people around your kids. They are 100% grooming them by trying to normalize their experiences.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2024 18:31     Subject: Addition recovery + snark

Yeah this sounds like grooming. These people have violated your boundaries for your entire life, and now feel entitled to do the same to your children. Instead of Al-Anon I would get therapy for a very common family dynamic amongst addicts, codependency and lack of boundary setting. A therapist will give you tools to learn how to push these people out of your children's lives.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2024 18:13     Subject: Addition recovery + snark

I have heard of people recovering from long division, but never addition.
Anonymous
Post 09/25/2024 14:28     Subject: Addition recovery + snark

They sound like immature low-life idiots. Maybe the addiction stunted their emotional and mental growth? Because they sound like moronic teenage delinquents. Just stay away OP.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2024 23:32     Subject: Addition recovery + snark

Agree. Steer clear. They are toxic.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2024 11:34     Subject: Addition recovery + snark

Why are these people in your life? They are a hot mess! They should be thanking God they are not dead instead of retelling their “glory years.” Steer clear of them all do not allow them access to your children.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2024 11:25     Subject: Addition recovery + snark

Forget about their sobriety, they are just inappropriate people. You can certainly tell them this, but it is unlikely to change them. And your conversation (should you choose to have one should not reference “outside a meeting”). Their behavior is nuts whether they are former addicts or not. Your kids are likely right that lower contact is the way to go. You don’t need AlAnon unless you are close enough to somehow be enabling them.

My dad (a drunk) married again after my mom died. New wife told a story to his grandkids about skinny dipping, etc. We are very, very low contact with both of them.

Given these are in-laws, you may need your spouse to drive any conversation (which I personally would not bother with) and be on board with lower contact.
Anonymous
Post 09/24/2024 10:51     Subject: Addition recovery + snark

We have 2 adults in our extended family who are in "a program".
They are only related through my marriage.

As our kids mature (late teens) they are both wildly inappropriate, and "share' stories about their antics before they were sober.
It has started to become talking about antics that were sexual in nature.
Often they talk about about things that they did which endangered a child-and sometimes I am the child in that story.

Afterwards the kids ask us how we "survived" and have asked if we can stop inviting them to some things-especially if their friends/significant others are around. The laughing is like a villain in a superhero movie. (Leaving toddlers unattended, fighting with coaches and scout leaders, driving drunk with kids in the car, asking middle schoolers to drive...)

I have been told that anything that keeps you sober for the day is OK. Both of these people have been "sober" for over 20 years.
I am currently taking a time out from both of them because their "sober" choices are pretty hurtful and awkward.

Can I gently explain that there are some boundaries "outside of the meeting"? Currently speechless.

I've been to Al-Anon. Doesn't feel like a good fit b/c the drinking/drug use is not active. This is shrapnel.