Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I wonder how they get the about debt numbers so low?

This is a list of schools where most students either (a) have rich parents, (b) receive substantial need-based grants, or (c) pay discounted tuition because they are in-state students.

I think that's exactly right. But it's important to remember that need-based grants at schools like Princeton and Rice are extended to families that most would regard as comfortably upper middle class. No one is saying no to schools like Stanford and MIT because they can't afford it. The private universities on this list offer exceptionally good financial aid.

So the talent goes there and to the solid state flagships. More than ever, the absurd costs of college today are going to dictate where accomplished students go to college.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I wonder how they get the about debt numbers so low?

This is a list of schools where most students either (a) have rich parents, (b) receive substantial need-based grants, or (c) pay discounted tuition because they are in-state students.

I think that's exactly right. But it's important to remember that need-based grants at schools like Princeton and Rice are extended to families that most would regard as comfortably upper middle class. No one is saying no to schools like Stanford and MIT because they can't afford it. The private universities on this list offer exceptionally good financial aid.

So the talent goes there and to the solid state flagships. More than ever, the absurd costs of college today are going to dictate where accomplished students go to college.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I wonder how they get the about debt numbers so low?

This is a list of schools where most students either (a) have rich parents, (b) receive substantial need-based grants, or (c) pay discounted tuition because they are in-state students.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I wonder how they get the about debt numbers so low?

This is a list of schools where most students either (a) have rich parents, (b) receive substantial need-based grants, or (c) pay discounted tuition because they are in-state students.

Anonymous wrote:lol

Harvard #8

Anonymous wrote:lol

Harvard #8

Anonymous wrote:Rank. Name. State. Type. Av. Grant Aid. Av. Debt. Median 10-year Salary. Financial Grade

1 Princeton University NJ Private not-for-profit $59,792 $7,559 $189,400 A-
2 Stanford University CA Private not-for-profit $60,619 $12,999 $177,500 A+
3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology MA Private not-for-profit $45,591 $13,792 $189,400 A
4 Yale University CT Private not-for-profit $63,523 $4,926 $168,300 A+
5 University of California, Berkeley CA Public $21,669 $7,238 $167,000
6 Columbia University NY Private not-for-profit $61,061 $16,849 $156,000 A+
7 University of Pennsylvania PA Private not-for-profit $57,175 $12,499 $171,800 A+
8 Harvard University MA Private not-for-profit $61,801 $9,004 $171,400 A
9 Rice University TX Private not-for-profit $51,955 $10,818 $152,100 A
10 Cornell University NY Private not-for-profit $54,219 $8,309 $155,400 A+

11 Northwestern University IL Private not-for-profit $61,716 $6,973 $141,300 A
12 Johns Hopkins University MD Private not-for-profit $54,405 $9,843 $142,300 A
13 University of California, Los Angeles CA Public $21,766 $6,418 $144,400
14 University of Chicago IL Private not-for-profit $48,422 $12,150 $150,600 A
15 Vanderbilt University TN Private not-for-profit $53,932 $8,872 $148,000 A-
16 Dartmouth College NH Private not-for-profit $62,293 $6,404 $173,300 A
17 Williams College MA Private not-for-profit $57,121 $4,143 $169,200 A+
18 Brown University RI Private not-for-profit $55,847 $10,059 $155,000 A
19 Claremont McKenna College CA Private not-for-profit $50,020 $7,631 $167,000 A+
20 Duke University NC Private not-for-profit $57,444 $6,351 $158,700 A+

21 University of California, San Diego CA Public $20,782 $6,437 $151,500
22 California Institute of Technology CA Private not-for-profit $59,192 $12,553 $168,600 B+
23 Wellesley College MA Private not-for-profit $61,328 $5,608 $134,100 A+
24 Amherst College MA Private not-for-profit $58,693 $9,293 $139,700 A+
25 Bowdoin College ME Private not-for-profit $53,534 $10,512 $152,900 A+
26 University of Florida FL Public $10,555 $6,122 $123,700
27 Swarthmore College PA Private not-for-profit $47,703 $7,705 $154,900 A+
28 University of Southern California CA Private not-for-profit $45,262 $7,526 $150,100 B-
29 University of Michigan, Ann Arbor MI Public $15,121 $8,470 $137,500
30 Washington University in St. Louis MO Private not-for-profit $58,188 $9,495 $142,800 A+

31 University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill NC Public $18,066 $7,953 $118,200
32 Georgetown University DC Private not-for-profit $45,949 $8,982 $163,400 B
33 Emory University GA Private not-for-profit $48,914 $7,280 $138,600 A
34 University of Virginia VA Public $26,818 $8,639 $149,100
35 University of California, Santa Barbara CA Public $20,389 $7,453 $148,600
36 Brigham Young University UT Private not-for-profit $6,325 $5,457 $133,900 A+
37 Pomona College CA Private not-for-profit $57,848 $9,049 $138,900 A+
38 Georgia Institute of Technology GA Public $13,992 $7,027 $163,500
39 University of California, Irvine CA Public $17,411 $6,561 $148,400
40 University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign IL Public $16,552 $6,697 $139,900

41 University of Maryland, College Park MD Public $11,232 $10,201 $134,700
42 University of Notre Dame IN Private not-for-profit $49,859 $7,390 $160,200 A+
43 University of California, Davis CA Public $20,548 $5,965 $142,700
44 University of Washington, Seattle WA Public $14,731 $6,169 $136,800
45 Colgate University NY Private not-for-profit $54,647 $9,018 $173,800 A-Rank
45 Colgate University NY Private not-for-profit $54,647 $9,018 $173,800 A-
46 University of Texas, Austin TX Public $8,321 $5,851 $137,000
47 Washington and Lee University VA Private not-for-profit $55,567 $7,714 $162,500 B+
48 Davidson College NC Private not-for-profit $46,496 $8,422 $140,300 A
49 New York University NY Private not-for-profit $47,096 $8,550 $147,100 B
50 University of Wisconsin, Madison WI Public $11,171 $9,299 $125,900

https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. I wonder how they get the about debt numbers so low?

Anonymous wrote:lol

Harvard #8