no one, esp a 17/18 yo senior (or if you are DCUM 19/20 yo senior), that gets into a test score only school is picking it over a school that curates a class a la IVY+

Anonymous wrote:Somehow the best universities in this country have figured something out about how to get results. They don’t need your input.

Since does asking a question = asking for input? What a dumb post.

Anonymous wrote:Somehow the best universities in this country have figured something out about how to get results. They don’t need your input.

touché
lol

Somehow the best universities in this country have figured something out about how to get results. They don’t need your input.

Anonymous wrote:All the TO talk makes me wonder - what's the point of creating a specific class to your standards, whatever those standards are? Just a prestige thing?

Bc its their school and they want to do what they want with it. You can start a school determined solely by tests can buikd a whole exciting identity and brand around that fact

Same reason schools have any differemces at all. Why are state schools not exactly the same across locale.

Anonymous wrote:All the TO talk makes me wonder - what's the point of creating a specific class to your standards, whatever those standards are? Just a prestige thing?

I don't see how this is a prestige thing. Exposure to peers with a diversity of backgrounds, thoughts, geographies, etc is crucial to an enriching educational experience.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so everyone isn't the same robot STEM kid.
seriously......

balance. a great American college experience is based on diversity of life experiences, thought, interests, background, majors, etc.

also, it allows them to pick students they KNOW will succeed (get jobs, not drop out, etc)

lastly, holistic admissions allows them to make sure they have students in ALL departments.

But why does this matter? I ask this as a engineering graduate from a large university. They didn't care about a holistic class.

Your inability to see why a holistic class might be valuable shows the limits of your non-holistic experience! You could have learned a lot and enjoyed spending times with a bunch of kids with all kinds of backgrounds and interests.

This. OP doesn't understand the benefits of a diverse setting and how it makes you a better thinker and problem solver because they've never had this experience. That's why OP is now getting hung up on something others understand intuitively.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so everyone isn't the same robot STEM kid.
seriously......

balance. a great American college experience is based on diversity of life experiences, thought, interests, background, majors, etc.

also, it allows them to pick students they KNOW will succeed (get jobs, not drop out, etc)

lastly, holistic admissions allows them to make sure they have students in ALL departments.

But why does this matter? I ask this as a engineering graduate from a large university. They didn't care about a holistic class.

Of course they did. They offer way more than just engineering...you have to admit kids that want to study all the things they offer. They also need kids that can play in the marching band, play sports, participate in theatre, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so everyone isn't the same robot STEM kid.
seriously......

balance. a great American college experience is based on diversity of life experiences, thought, interests, background, majors, etc.

also, it allows them to pick students they KNOW will succeed (get jobs, not drop out, etc)

lastly, holistic admissions allows them to make sure they have students in ALL departments.

But why does this matter? I ask this as a engineering graduate from a large university. They didn't care about a holistic class.

Your inability to see why a holistic class might be valuable shows the limits of your non-holistic experience! You could have learned a lot and enjoyed spending times with a bunch of kids with all kinds of backgrounds and interests.

Anonymous wrote:so everyone isn't the same robot STEM kid.
seriously......

balance. a great American college experience is based on diversity of life experiences, thought, interests, background, majors, etc.

also, it allows them to pick students they KNOW will succeed (get jobs, not drop out, etc)

lastly, holistic admissions allows them to make sure they have students in ALL departments.

this. its not india people.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:so everyone isn't the same robot STEM kid.
seriously......

balance. a great American college experience is based on diversity of life experiences, thought, interests, background, majors, etc.

also, it allows them to pick students they KNOW will succeed (get jobs, not drop out, etc)

lastly, holistic admissions allows them to make sure they have students in ALL departments.

But why does this matter? I ask this as a engineering graduate from a large university. They didn't care about a holistic class.

so maybe you weren't at a selective school (yes, i get a selective major)....but a large flagship doesn't care about "holistic" admissions bc their mission is to educate the state's people.

private colleges have different missions.

No. It's a university deciding that unless they are XPI (tech only school), it's beneficial to have a diverse campus with kids majoring in all areas. Just like it's beneficial to not have 80% male (or 80% female), they want students majoring in Art history, if they have a department.

They also, smartly, value having more than just students from the Top 5% economically. Our country/society will be greatly improved if we value actually educating everyone.

IMO, (and that of both my kids), they don't want to attend school where everyone is "the same carbon copy" of everyone else. They want to meet new people and learn.

Anonymous wrote:so everyone isn't the same robot STEM kid.
seriously......

balance. a great American college experience is based on diversity of life experiences, thought, interests, background, majors, etc.

also, it allows them to pick students they KNOW will succeed (get jobs, not drop out, etc)

lastly, holistic admissions allows them to make sure they have students in ALL departments.

But why does this matter? I ask this as a engineering graduate from a large university. They didn't care about a holistic class.

so everyone isn't the same robot STEM kid.
seriously......

balance. a great American college experience is based on diversity of life experiences, thought, interests, background, majors, etc.

also, it allows them to pick students they KNOW will succeed (get jobs, not drop out, etc)

lastly, holistic admissions allows them to make sure they have students in ALL departments.

All the TO talk makes me wonder - what's the point of creating a specific class to your standards, whatever those standards are? Just a prestige thing?