Anonymous wrote:Have you toured the top 20 schools in the last 2 years and actually noticed the students at these schools? Have you seen the kids on the tours with you? The demographic of top 20 schools has changed drastically. The kids attending skew nerdy and awkward. If you are more of a “smart, social kid that likes to party” type, the Ivy and Ivy+ are not that appealing — especially if you are already a part of the 1%. The top 20s used to be filled with kids like this, but those days are gone.

this ^ 100% - I advise kids and invariably it is the parents and hard core nerds looking for ivies. The cool, relaxed, athletic, social - and most of all, smart - kids want the Dukes, Vandies, SMU, UCLAs of the world. The tide shifted post covid and is only accelerating. Often a big disconnect between the striving parent (just saw this term on another post - luv it) who is ivy or bust, and what the kid wants. And where the kid doesn’t get a say, it’s almost as if they are robots saying “yes, I want ivy”

Anonymous wrote:Have you toured the top 20 schools in the last 2 years and actually noticed the students at these schools? Have you seen the kids on the tours with you? The demographic of top 20 schools has changed drastically. The kids attending skew nerdy and awkward. If you are more of a “smart, social kid that likes to party” type, the Ivy and Ivy+ are not that appealing — especially if you are already a part of the 1%. The top 20s used to be filled with kids like this, but those days are gone.

I agree with this statement.

Have you toured the top 20 schools in the last 2 years and actually noticed the students at these schools? Have you seen the kids on the tours with you? The demographic of top 20 schools has changed drastically. The kids attending skew nerdy and awkward. If you are more of a “smart, social kid that likes to party” type, the Ivy and Ivy+ are not that appealing — especially if you are already a part of the 1%. The top 20s used to be filled with kids like this, but those days are gone.

Do you think it’s football/sports related? I listen to a podcast (2 females) and their level of interest in sports baffles me. The parents are alumni of a Big State U and want the same for their kids. I don’t hear the same enthusiasm for UMD.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a post here a month or so ago re high net worth Blacks increasingly applying to schools in the West and South instead of Ivys/Top20 in the NE. including those you mention - Duke, Vandy, USC, UCLA, Tulane, Georgia + Howard and Spelman. So this is consistent.

Many of those responding wouldnt believe them. Not sure why.

This has nothing to do with OP's question.

Really? Not even a little bit?

No, it doesn't. An "area" isn't shared.

People with money don't need to go to an Ivy also some of the kids of wealthy folks are dumb as rocks. So no chance of getting in without being George H. W. Bush.

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Anonymous wrote:There was a post here a month or so ago re high net worth Blacks increasingly applying to schools in the West and South instead of Ivys/Top20 in the NE. including those you mention - Duke, Vandy, USC, UCLA, Tulane, Georgia + Howard and Spelman. So this is consistent.

Many of those responding wouldnt believe them. Not sure why.

This has nothing to do with OP's question.

Really? Not even a little bit?

Anonymous wrote:There was a post here a month or so ago re high net worth Blacks increasingly applying to schools in the West and South instead of Ivys/Top20 in the NE. including those you mention - Duke, Vandy, USC, UCLA, Tulane, Georgia + Howard and Spelman. So this is consistent.

Many of those responding wouldnt believe them. Not sure why.

This has nothing to do with OP's question.

There was a post here a month or so ago re high net worth Blacks increasingly applying to schools in the West and South instead of Ivys/Top20 in the NE. including those you mention - Duke, Vandy, USC, UCLA, Tulane, Georgia + Howard and Spelman. So this is consistent.

Many of those responding wouldnt believe them. Not sure why.

Most of the Midwest.
I thought SMU was where wealthy Dallas went

Scottsdale AZ. Great school and everyone ends up at U of A or ASU.

Highland Park

Anonymous wrote:Atlanta?

Dallas

Atlanta?

We live in a really wealthy area and it’s surprisingly not that competitive about college admissions. Top ranked public school, average house now over 2.5m in our district and people just want their kids to get into state schools. A small handful go on to more prestigious universities but for the most part people go to middle of the road schools and don’t stress about it. Top 5 % kids go to Georgia or Michigan. Duke and UCLA would be considered elite.