Anonymous wrote:Everyone complains about roster size in their journey to get to college soccer.

How many players are on college rosters?

Under the new NCAA rules, rosters starting fall 2025 will be capped at 28 players. So FVU has teams that are bigger than college rosters.

Talk to a lawyer and have them write a letter for you.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the way it works at the big clubs. Even with teams that aren’t that good.

The coaches are making good money, the clubs also provide different coaching directors etc. the only way to make budget for all that is with more players.

You don’t have to be a brain surgeon to figure this one out.

But yes the only way to get better is to play significant minutes in the games. Consider doublecarding with a lower level team to get those minutes in. This is the way it is.

The only way to get better is not significant minutes in games, it's putting in the extra work outside practice and going hard at practice. How many times does your kid touch the ball if they play the full game, 10? 15? 20 times? Now how many times do they touch the ball in practice? 100? 120? game time doesn't equal development, it's a chance to put what you learned at practice into play against an opponent.

All the kids on team are getting those touches in practice. Only some of the players are getting significant game time on top of the practice time. Which players do you think are getting better development? There are situations that happen only in games when you are playing another opponent on a full field, pressure, tactics, decisions that need to be made that aren't easy to simulate in practice. Of course some player development happens in games. Not just in games, but games are very important for development.

Not to mention at the older age groups playing time is more about being able to showcase and not for development.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the way it works at the big clubs. Even with teams that aren’t that good.

The coaches are making good money, the clubs also provide different coaching directors etc. the only way to make budget for all that is with more players.

You don’t have to be a brain surgeon to figure this one out.

But yes the only way to get better is to play significant minutes in the games. Consider doublecarding with a lower level team to get those minutes in. This is the way it is.

The only way to get better is not significant minutes in games, it's putting in the extra work outside practice and going hard at practice. How many times does your kid touch the ball if they play the full game, 10? 15? 20 times? Now how many times do they touch the ball in practice? 100? 120? game time doesn't equal development, it's a chance to put what you learned at practice into play against an opponent.

All the kids on team are getting those touches in practice. Only some of the players are getting significant game time on top of the practice time. Which players do you think are getting better development? There are situations that happen only in games when you are playing another opponent on a full field, pressure, tactics, decisions that need to be made that aren't easy to simulate in practice. Of course some player development happens in games. Not just in games, but games are very important for development.

Anonymous wrote:This is the way it works at the big clubs. Even with teams that aren’t that good.

The coaches are making good money, the clubs also provide different coaching directors etc. the only way to make budget for all that is with more players.

You don’t have to be a brain surgeon to figure this one out.

But yes the only way to get better is to play significant minutes in the games. Consider doublecarding with a lower level team to get those minutes in. This is the way it is.

Amateur comment of the day thus far.

How is it the only way?

Anonymous wrote:This is the way it works at the big clubs. Even with teams that aren’t that good.

The coaches are making good money, the clubs also provide different coaching directors etc. the only way to make budget for all that is with more players.

You don’t have to be a brain surgeon to figure this one out.

But yes the only way to get better is to play significant minutes in the games. Consider doublecarding with a lower level team to get those minutes in. This is the way it is.

The only way to get better is not significant minutes in games, it's putting in the extra work outside practice and going hard at practice. How many times does your kid touch the ball if they play the full game, 10? 15? 20 times? Now how many times do they touch the ball in practice? 100? 120? game time doesn't equal development, it's a chance to put what you learned at practice into play against an opponent.

Everyone complains about roster size in their journey to get to college soccer.

How many players are on college rosters?

Arlington definitely put 20-22 on some of their RL rosters this year.

It’s not a good look for a Club and not fair to kids.
I do want to say I’m on the FVU boys side and no roster is bigger than 23 most 21. We also have the option to play with the RL teams from Vienna or McLean if not rostered a week.
It was all spelled out and handled fairly.
I’m not sure about the girls side and we’ll see how it plays out, but don’t believe all the hype.
I’m curious what Club you are with, if you don’t want to say it now, mention it in the Spring. Clubs should be held accountable for these sort of decisions.

This is the way it works at the big clubs. Even with teams that aren’t that good.

The coaches are making good money, the clubs also provide different coaching directors etc. the only way to make budget for all that is with more players.

You don’t have to be a brain surgeon to figure this one out.

But yes the only way to get better is to play significant minutes in the games. Consider doublecarding with a lower level team to get those minutes in. This is the way it is.

That is unfortunate. From what I have been told, a big reason for bing on an ECNL team is to participate in the "Showcase" where the coach tries to play everyone for at least half the game.

That seems hard to do if you have more than 22 kids.

I would be upset also, but realistically what other options do you have? What recourse do you have? I don't think there is one that is practical. You could quit, small claims or complain. All which means your kid is most likely not on the team anymore or not starting.

Did they tell you in writing and does the kid have another option? If yes to both, you can leave. If yes to neither, your kid is stuck and you should remember it next year. If your kid isn't dressing for games and the offer stated the number of games, you're out of the charge back window by the end of the season, but still squarely in the small claims window

Anonymous wrote:I love the phrases you travel soccer parents use. “ accepted their offer” “ “ they were invited to play”
These people are running a business. They want your money. Your kid tried out and was “ good enough” to be on a team. You are paying for what they provide.

Thanks, coach.

I love the phrases you travel soccer parents use. “ accepted their offer” “ “ they were invited to play”
These people are running a business. They want your money. Your kid tried out and was “ good enough” to be on a team. You are paying for what they provide.

Hello,
When my kid accepted their offer, they was told the roster would be at about 20. Now, the roster is at 25 (hopefully it's the end of it). Their first tournament, only 22 can be on the roster and only 18 can dress. If we had known when we accepted, they would have taken another offer with another team (who kept true to their word by the way). I have heard that at FVU, you have team over 30.
Of course, we have committed and paid so there is no way out of our contract but am I the only one to feel this is fraudulent? Can you imagine any other business like say, a carwash that promises you to wash your entire car but then, when you come to drop it, they have so many cars to wash that they will only wash the outside but you still pay full price?!?!
At $3000 per player, they are making a killing on those teams but I don't feel we get anything close to what we are paying for.
Greed seems to be driving this business without ANY regards to the population they are serving (KIDS) and I also believe this should be illegal as service rendered is not what was promised.