Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 20:24     Subject: ODP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can get selected for the ODP regional and national team selections... which is not meaningless at all. It's quite a distinction and would make any player standout; also it would bypass the politics and connections associated with getting on the radar of USYNT scouting officials.

I never understood "parents" who shut down options for kids to try other programs, particularly programs for kids who might not have all the rousers and quality competition in their region/ local neighborhoods.

Each state is different, but we have found the training to be very good when compared to our travel team training. (Last year, our Coach just showed up 5 min before practices and would do 1 drill, then scrimmage the whole time...) So, for us, it has been worth it. We did 10 training sessions for $250...which has been least expensive soccer training we have completed.


ODP is lower level soccer. Period. Don't confuse it with a higher quality soccer level (ECNL, GA, MLSNext) and expect it to get you noticed (by colleges) or "on the radar" for YNTs. Kids that join the program and get selected for regional/national ODP selections can certainly be proud of their accomplishments, but don't confuse the level of play with the higher-end leagues.


Both things points are in the ballpark. I don't think anyone was trying to compare ECNL & GA w ODP. However the ODP national team rosters are full of ECNL, GA players who will go to D1 schools and are on the YNTs.


Is ODP preparing kids to represent America in the Olympics?

That's what the O is for, right?


It was. Now the O stands for Overpriced
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 14:11     Subject: ODP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can get selected for the ODP regional and national team selections... which is not meaningless at all. It's quite a distinction and would make any player standout; also it would bypass the politics and connections associated with getting on the radar of USYNT scouting officials.

I never understood "parents" who shut down options for kids to try other programs, particularly programs for kids who might not have all the rousers and quality competition in their region/ local neighborhoods.

Each state is different, but we have found the training to be very good when compared to our travel team training. (Last year, our Coach just showed up 5 min before practices and would do 1 drill, then scrimmage the whole time...) So, for us, it has been worth it. We did 10 training sessions for $250...which has been least expensive soccer training we have completed.


ODP is lower level soccer. Period. Don't confuse it with a higher quality soccer level (ECNL, GA, MLSNext) and expect it to get you noticed (by colleges) or "on the radar" for YNTs. Kids that join the program and get selected for regional/national ODP selections can certainly be proud of their accomplishments, but don't confuse the level of play with the higher-end leagues.


Both things points are in the ballpark. I don't think anyone was trying to compare ECNL & GA w ODP. However the ODP national team rosters are full of ECNL, GA players who will go to D1 schools and are on the YNTs.


Is ODP preparing kids to represent America in the Olympics?

That's what the O is for, right?
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 14:04     Subject: ODP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You can get selected for the ODP regional and national team selections... which is not meaningless at all. It's quite a distinction and would make any player standout; also it would bypass the politics and connections associated with getting on the radar of USYNT scouting officials.

I never understood "parents" who shut down options for kids to try other programs, particularly programs for kids who might not have all the rousers and quality competition in their region/ local neighborhoods.

Each state is different, but we have found the training to be very good when compared to our travel team training. (Last year, our Coach just showed up 5 min before practices and would do 1 drill, then scrimmage the whole time...) So, for us, it has been worth it. We did 10 training sessions for $250...which has been least expensive soccer training we have completed.


ODP is lower level soccer. Period. Don't confuse it with a higher quality soccer level (ECNL, GA, MLSNext) and expect it to get you noticed (by colleges) or "on the radar" for YNTs. Kids that join the program and get selected for regional/national ODP selections can certainly be proud of their accomplishments, but don't confuse the level of play with the higher-end leagues.


Both things points are in the ballpark. I don't think anyone was trying to compare ECNL & GA w ODP. However the ODP national team rosters are full of ECNL, GA players who will go to D1 schools and are on the YNTs.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 13:43     Subject: ODP
Anonymous wrote:You can get selected for the ODP regional and national team selections... which is not meaningless at all. It's quite a distinction and would make any player standout; also it would bypass the politics and connections associated with getting on the radar of USYNT scouting officials.

I never understood "parents" who shut down options for kids to try other programs, particularly programs for kids who might not have all the rousers and quality competition in their region/ local neighborhoods.

Each state is different, but we have found the training to be very good when compared to our travel team training. (Last year, our Coach just showed up 5 min before practices and would do 1 drill, then scrimmage the whole time...) So, for us, it has been worth it. We did 10 training sessions for $250...which has been least expensive soccer training we have completed.


ODP is lower level soccer. Period. Don't confuse it with a higher quality soccer level (ECNL, GA, MLSNext) and expect it to get you noticed (by colleges) or "on the radar" for YNTs. Kids that join the program and get selected for regional/national ODP selections can certainly be proud of their accomplishments, but don't confuse the level of play with the higher-end leagues.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 13:07     Subject: ODP
Anonymous wrote:You can get selected for the ODP regional and national team selections... which is not meaningless at all. It's quite a distinction and would make any player standout; also it would bypass the politics and connections associated with getting on the radar of USYNT scouting officials.

I never understood "parents" who shut down options for kids to try other programs, particularly programs for kids who might not have all the rousers and quality competition in their region/ local neighborhoods.

Each state is different, but we have found the training to be very good when compared to our travel team training. (Last year, our Coach just showed up 5 min before practices and would do 1 drill, then scrimmage the whole time...) So, for us, it has been worth it. We did 10 training sessions for $250...which has been least expensive soccer training we have completed.


In my case, I'm not interested in paying for or getting my kid to any soccer programs besides the travel team they're already playing for — my kid seems to be in no danger of playing college soccer when they get older, let alone going pro, and I just don't see the point of investing more time or money. They like playing, the coaching with non-top-level travel team is way better than it was in rec, and they have friends on the team, so, great, but getting on anyone's radar isn't an issue with my kid, so I think I'll pass on more carpooling or fees.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 13:00     Subject: ODP
You can get selected for the ODP regional and national team selections... which is not meaningless at all. It's quite a distinction and would make any player standout; also it would bypass the politics and connections associated with getting on the radar of USYNT scouting officials.

I never understood "parents" who shut down options for kids to try other programs, particularly programs for kids who might not have all the rousers and quality competition in their region/ local neighborhoods.

Each state is different, but we have found the training to be very good when compared to our travel team training. (Last year, our Coach just showed up 5 min before practices and would do 1 drill, then scrimmage the whole time...) So, for us, it has been worth it. We did 10 training sessions for $250...which has been least expensive soccer training we have completed.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 12:53     Subject: ODP
30 years ago when you had mostly parent coaches, not a lot of technical development, and top talent was more dispersed, it made sense to have a structure to get better players together for identification and training with some better coaches. Now - MLS-Next and ECNL-N players have no reason to do ODP, their coaching and training environments should be equal or better than anything ODP could provide.

It may be worth it for other players outside of that top tier, but they should know going in that it is just a few extra training sessions with different coaches and a different set of players. Expect experience to vary based on the coaches assigned and players that sign up just like any camp or other group training environment.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 12:40     Subject: ODP
Its a money grab. Level of competition is so low it's almost like rec. MLS next players are not allowed to partake it in; there goes your competition.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 12:02     Subject: ODP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No very competitive these days. Not like before.

Not like before? OK So ODP was a thing when I was a kid, I played on a team with Abby Wambach. Then it became not a thing, are you trying to say it's a thing again? Or was that No supposed to be a "Not"


Okay, now that you bragged about supposedly "playing" it's pretty obvious that the poster mentioned that it's not competitive anymore. Get it?


Yes being on a NYWest ODP team with a future star is the closest I have been to greatness why not brag about it
They wrote "no very competitive these days" So if that is "no, very competitive these days" that is very different than "not very competitive these days" And I am terrible at English and know there is a difference. I just wanted to know what was meant by that. I have heard with ECNL, GA and MLS Next, ODP is meaningless. My oldest is only 8 so I have no personal knowledge.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 11:54     Subject: ODP
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No very competitive these days. Not like before.

Not like before? OK So ODP was a thing when I was a kid, I played on a team with Abby Wambach. Then it became not a thing, are you trying to say it's a thing again? Or was that No supposed to be a "Not"


Okay, now that you bragged about supposedly "playing" it's pretty obvious that the poster mentioned that it's not competitive anymore. Get it?
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 11:51     Subject: ODP
Are yall going to do this same post every year?
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 11:44     Subject: ODP
I think they meant it to be 'Not'
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 10:50     Subject: ODP
Anonymous wrote:No very competitive these days. Not like before.

Not like before? OK So ODP was a thing when I was a kid, I played on a team with Abby Wambach. Then it became not a thing, are you trying to say it's a thing again? Or was that No supposed to be a "Not"
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 10:39     Subject: ODP
No very competitive these days. Not like before.
Anonymous
Post 08/07/2024 10:28     Subject: ODP
Is this even a real thing anymore? Why would anyone pay for ODP still or am I mistaken in what I've read about it not being relevant a cash grab these days.