Anonymous wrote:Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?

For the same reason there was an effort years ago to add Art to make it STEAM.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would nursing not be STEM? Also a research-based psych program is a STEM program, and is no less STEM than a biology degree.

Agree on Nursing. Disagree about psychology. Psychology “experiments” are not reproducible most of the time.

What would you say about the biology-based psych programs that overlap with neuro? Are they just social scientists with a lot of knowledge of biological systems or?

Here's the Math of STEM:

The amount this matters is 0.

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Anonymous wrote:STEM should really be S'TEM. S' = Physics & Chemistry, and E/T includes Computer Science depending on its flavor. The rest of the domains that fall under S (e.g. Biology) are really people reaching to be part of the STEM umbrella.

My favorite non-science, biology.

Do you people ever think about what you're saying?

We do. Where did I say Biology was a 'non science' :roll: S' = Subset of Science.

Do you people ever read to comprehend?

Why would you exclude biology? Is medicine not a stem career?

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Anonymous wrote:People want the STEM label because in common parlance STEM is considered superior to non-STEM.

Ridiculous. STEM was a call for more people with tech skills. That always included nurses. It includes IT, it includes, any number of unglamorous but skilled careers. If you want to be cynical it was also a call for a tech glut so that CS wages could be surprised without offshoring and H-1Bs. It’s working.

People want the STEM label because in common parlance STEM is considered superior to non-STEM.

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Anonymous wrote:STEM should really be S'TEM. S' = Physics & Chemistry, and E/T includes Computer Science depending on its flavor. The rest of the domains that fall under S (e.g. Biology) are really people reaching to be part of the STEM umbrella.

My favorite non-science, biology.

Do you people ever think about what you're saying?

We do. Where did I say Biology was a 'non science' :roll: S' = Subset of Science.

Do you people ever read to comprehend?

Anonymous wrote:STEM should really be S'TEM. S' = Physics & Chemistry, and E/T includes Computer Science depending on its flavor. The rest of the domains that fall under S (e.g. Biology) are really people reaching to be part of the STEM umbrella.

My favorite non-science, biology.

Do you people ever think about what you're saying?

STEM should really be S'TEM. S' = Physics & Chemistry, and E/T includes Computer Science depending on its flavor. The rest of the domains that fall under S (e.g. Biology) are really people reaching to be part of the STEM umbrella.

Anonymous wrote:Why would nursing not be STEM? Also a research-based psych program is a STEM program, and is no less STEM than a biology degree.

Agree on Nursing. Disagree about psychology. Psychology “experiments” are not reproducible most of the time.

Anonymous wrote:Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?

Nursing legitimately is STEM, in my view.
The others claim to be STEM simply as marketing — because they are trying to attract more students to their department…

Why would nursing not be STEM? Also a research-based psych program is a STEM program, and is no less STEM than a biology degree.

It’s not

Why do people with majors such as kinesiology, nursing, psychology etc. want to be considered STEM? What makes STEM "status" superior?