Anonymous
07/10/2024 22:26
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think you all are missing the point of RL, it isn’t supposed to be a pathway. It’s a league that provides a higher level competition than NPL, but not as intense as ECNL in terms of commitment and competition. But also allows ECNL to extend the collegiate mission to more than the NL teams because we all know a number of very talented athletes that cannot compete on a NL commitment for any number of reasons. It also ads value back to colleges that may not see these athletes in NPL or HS, or in markets where NL is either not, or NL is oversaturated.
In the top 100 ECNL team ranks there are a handful of RL teams, so it’s not necessarily an indication of lower skill.
That’s interesting. As a Marylander with a girl in the USYS NL, her team routinely beats top RL teams in tournaments- so when the discussion comes up, it feels like it would be a step down to join RL (plus extra travel). But I also know USYS is losing clubs to GA/ECNL, so it’s tough to know what the club should do going forward.
The biggest challenge for USYS NL teams (including a few VERY talented Alexandria teams) is they won't have the easier exposure that ECNL National events give them. No one can argue with Bethesda, Arlington and Union's college numbers. We can all agree that there are many external factors, including academic achievement, parent alumni networks, etc, etc that make the path easier, but when local GA clubs advertise D2, and D3 coaches at their college showcases and ECNL clubs have some top programs there it is hard to argue.
And yes, ECNL boy parents, I'm talking to girl parents.
Fnally, everyone needs to hold their powder unless they are worrying about sophomores and up. Much like there are little/no opportunities for non MLS Next to compete with the MLS Next and international above college age players, NIL and the rising interest of internationals in NWSL is going to do a number on the women's college soccer game as well. Quality will rise all around, but less opportunities for Addie from Ashburn.
Women's College soccer will change over time as it should. But I do not see it changing that much. NIL will not change anything and I worry not about international players. Maybe the top and bottom clubs but the middle is pretty well set.
Anonymous
07/10/2024 22:05
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think you all are missing the point of RL, it isn’t supposed to be a pathway. It’s a league that provides a higher level competition than NPL, but not as intense as ECNL in terms of commitment and competition. But also allows ECNL to extend the collegiate mission to more than the NL teams because we all know a number of very talented athletes that cannot compete on a NL commitment for any number of reasons. It also ads value back to colleges that may not see these athletes in NPL or HS, or in markets where NL is either not, or NL is oversaturated.
In the top 100 ECNL team ranks there are a handful of RL teams, so it’s not necessarily an indication of lower skill.
That’s interesting. As a Marylander with a girl in the USYS NL, her team routinely beats top RL teams in tournaments- so when the discussion comes up, it feels like it would be a step down to join RL (plus extra travel). But I also know USYS is losing clubs to GA/ECNL, so it’s tough to know what the club should do going forward.
The biggest challenge for USYS NL teams (including a few VERY talented Alexandria teams) is they won't have the easier exposure that ECNL National events give them. No one can argue with Bethesda, Arlington and Union's college numbers. We can all agree that there are many external factors, including academic achievement, parent alumni networks, etc, etc that make the path easier, but when local GA clubs advertise D2, and D3 coaches at their college showcases and ECNL clubs have some top programs there it is hard to argue.
And yes, ECNL boy parents, I'm talking to girl parents.
Fnally, everyone needs to hold their powder unless they are worrying about sophomores and up. Much like there are little/no opportunities for non MLS Next to compete with the MLS Next and international above college age players, NIL and the rising interest of internationals in NWSL is going to do a number on the women's college soccer game as well. Quality will rise all around, but less opportunities for Addie from Ashburn.
Anonymous
07/10/2024 21:57
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:I think you all are missing the point of RL, it isn’t supposed to be a pathway. It’s a league that provides a higher level competition than NPL, but not as intense as ECNL in terms of commitment and competition. But also allows ECNL to extend the collegiate mission to more than the NL teams because we all know a number of very talented athletes that cannot compete on a NL commitment for any number of reasons. It also ads value back to colleges that may not see these athletes in NPL or HS, or in markets where NL is either not, or NL is oversaturated.
In the top 100 ECNL team ranks there are a handful of RL teams, so it’s not necessarily an indication of lower skill.
That’s interesting. As a Marylander with a girl in the USYS NL, her team routinely beats top RL teams in tournaments- so when the discussion comes up, it feels like it would be a step down to join RL (plus extra travel). But I also know USYS is losing clubs to GA/ECNL, so it’s tough to know what the club should do going forward.
Anonymous
07/10/2024 21:15
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
I think you all are missing the point of RL, it isn’t supposed to be a pathway. It’s a league that provides a higher level competition than NPL, but not as intense as ECNL in terms of commitment and competition. But also allows ECNL to extend the collegiate mission to more than the NL teams because we all know a number of very talented athletes that cannot compete on a NL commitment for any number of reasons. It also ads value back to colleges that may not see these athletes in NPL or HS, or in markets where NL is either not, or NL is oversaturated.
In the top 100 ECNL team ranks there are a handful of RL teams, so it’s not necessarily an indication of lower skill.
In the top 100 ECNL team ranks there are a handful of RL teams, so it’s not necessarily an indication of lower skill.
Anonymous
07/10/2024 21:04
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous
07/10/2024 17:52
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to understand how ECNL is positioning itself as it rolls out more and more RL leagues across the country. Is the idea that with ECNL& RL they will relegate up and down? If a club can't compete in one age group at the NL level, they can still remain in ENCL but compete at the RL level?
Someone lay it out for me!
No it is not setting up for promotion and relegation.
Then how will they cope with this huge influx of clubs? Or will RL become just the local league like EDP etc.?
RL is just a branding exercise. Your good RL team is not going to get promoted.
Weren't there a few RL teams in the last year (or two?) that were moved up to ECNL?
Anonymous
07/10/2024 15:29
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to understand how ECNL is positioning itself as it rolls out more and more RL leagues across the country. Is the idea that with ECNL& RL they will relegate up and down? If a club can't compete in one age group at the NL level, they can still remain in ENCL but compete at the RL level?
Someone lay it out for me!
No it is not setting up for promotion and relegation.
Then how will they cope with this huge influx of clubs? Or will RL become just the local league like EDP etc.?
RL is just a branding exercise. Your good RL team is not going to get promoted.
I'm looking at it from the MD side, where RL is where the #2 teams compete, but they still travel up to DE and NJ to do so. Will an expanded RL league mean they would play more locally?
Anonymous
07/10/2024 15:28
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to understand how ECNL is positioning itself as it rolls out more and more RL leagues across the country. Is the idea that with ECNL& RL they will relegate up and down? If a club can't compete in one age group at the NL level, they can still remain in ENCL but compete at the RL level?
Someone lay it out for me!
No it is not setting up for promotion and relegation.
Why would anyone have p and r for little league?
Anonymous
07/10/2024 15:28
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to understand how ECNL is positioning itself as it rolls out more and more RL leagues across the country. Is the idea that with ECNL& RL they will relegate up and down? If a club can't compete in one age group at the NL level, they can still remain in ENCL but compete at the RL level?
Someone lay it out for me!
No it is not setting up for promotion and relegation.
Then how will they cope with this huge influx of clubs? Or will RL become just the local league like EDP etc.?
RL is just a branding exercise. Your good RL team is not going to get promoted.
Anonymous
07/10/2024 15:26
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trying to understand how ECNL is positioning itself as it rolls out more and more RL leagues across the country. Is the idea that with ECNL& RL they will relegate up and down? If a club can't compete in one age group at the NL level, they can still remain in ENCL but compete at the RL level?
Someone lay it out for me!
No it is not setting up for promotion and relegation.
Then how will they cope with this huge influx of clubs? Or will RL become just the local league like EDP etc.?
Anonymous
07/10/2024 15:24
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ECNL is positioning itself to generate to most amount of money possible for member clubs.
How so?
Multiple events either locally or across the nation that are designed to keep parents and players engaged while clubs sell the dream of playing soccer in college.
Anonymous
07/10/2024 15:24
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:Trying to understand how ECNL is positioning itself as it rolls out more and more RL leagues across the country. Is the idea that with ECNL& RL they will relegate up and down? If a club can't compete in one age group at the NL level, they can still remain in ENCL but compete at the RL level?
Someone lay it out for me!
No it is not setting up for promotion and relegation.
Anonymous
07/10/2024 15:01
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Anonymous wrote:ECNL is positioning itself to generate to most amount of money possible for member clubs.
How so?
Anonymous
07/10/2024 15:00
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
ECNL is positioning itself to generate to most amount of money possible for member clubs.
Anonymous
07/10/2024 14:56
Subject: What is the overall ECNL vision, aside from world domination
Trying to understand how ECNL is positioning itself as it rolls out more and more RL leagues across the country. Is the idea that with ECNL& RL they will relegate up and down? If a club can't compete in one age group at the NL level, they can still remain in ENCL but compete at the RL level?
Someone lay it out for me!
Someone lay it out for me!