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Anonymous wrote:It seems pretty inconsistent (and by inconsistent I mean laughably hypocritical) to be anti-car and then take advantage of rideshare services and home delivery.

I mean, if you’re anti-car, you have to live ot 24/7/365 - not just when the weather suits you.

Do we?

(Tip - being personally car free does not mean you never use a vehicle.)

dp.. then you are not anti-car, so the comment doesn't apply to you.

That’s a caricature then.

Anonymous wrote:It seems pretty inconsistent (and by inconsistent I mean laughably hypocritical) to be anti-car and then take advantage of rideshare services and home delivery.

I mean, if you’re anti-car, you have to live ot 24/7/365 - not just when the weather suits you.

I don't think many people would describe themselves as "anti car" - maybe a (vocal) minority, and you're right there's probably some amount of hypocrisy in that position. But a lot of people would like to see car dependence reduced. It doesn't have to be so black and white. If the buses and metro trains were well-maintained, air-conditioned, and ran reliably and frequently, then they would be a much better option in the heat. Or if neighborhoods were upzoned and had more dense commercial development that made for shorter walks, then that might be an option. Unfortunately they're not, and so an Uber and/or personal car is often the next best option.

IMO this whole "anti car / pro car" debate would benefit from more people on both sides recognizing the gray area.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems pretty inconsistent (and by inconsistent I mean laughably hypocritical) to be anti-car and then take advantage of rideshare services and home delivery.

I mean, if you’re anti-car, you have to live ot 24/7/365 - not just when the weather suits you.

Do we?

(Tip - being personally car free does not mean you never use a vehicle.)

dp.. then you are not anti-car, so the comment doesn't apply to you.

NP - Do you really think there are "anti-car" people who are against all cars? That seems pretty rare.

Yes, there are, and they are prominent voices in progressive circles (and Democrats follow what progressives do these days). They think cars are inherently murderous and highways are racists and that suburbs are unpatriotic.

I don’t know if I would say I’m “anti-car” - we don’t have a car, don’t want a car, and in general, I think this country should be less car friendly and more walking/biking/public transit friendly for people’s mental and physical health, the environment, and the health and vibrancy of our communities. But I recognize as my kids get older (currently 5, 3, baby) we might need one car for farther away activities - that wouldn’t be a failure or anything, and I don’t judge or hate people who have cars.

Anyway, heat doesn’t bother me much. I’ve been doing my usual 45 min circuit (pushing the stroller!) to take all the kids to camps/childcare, and then again to pick up at the end of the day, half the days (husband does the other half). And I work hybrid, been walking (about 40 mins) to and from the office 2x a week. I wear lightweight clothing and stay really well hydrated and come home sweaty. It’s really not that big of a deal.

I will say the physical labor outside (like your unloading all the groceries example) is, for me, way worse than walking. Just walking isn’t strenuous at all for me, so it doesn’t really feel much differently than just sitting by the pool (especially cause we have a really good stroller).

Biggest difference is that on weekends, we’re only doing water based activities outside, the pool or the splash pad. No regular playgrounds, it’s too hot.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems pretty inconsistent (and by inconsistent I mean laughably hypocritical) to be anti-car and then take advantage of rideshare services and home delivery.

I mean, if you’re anti-car, you have to live ot 24/7/365 - not just when the weather suits you.

Do we?

(Tip - being personally car free does not mean you never use a vehicle.)

dp.. then you are not anti-car, so the comment doesn't apply to you.

NP - Do you really think there are "anti-car" people who are against all cars? That seems pretty rare.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It seems pretty inconsistent (and by inconsistent I mean laughably hypocritical) to be anti-car and then take advantage of rideshare services and home delivery.

I mean, if you’re anti-car, you have to live ot 24/7/365 - not just when the weather suits you.

Do we?

(Tip - being personally car free does not mean you never use a vehicle.)

dp.. then you are not anti-car, so the comment doesn't apply to you.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not an anti car person, in fact I own one. But fwiw, my ebike is my primary mode of transportation and it feels great in this heat. You'd really be surprised at how cooling it is to ride an ebike.

Of course, it cuts both ways. It feels frigid when the temps are 50 or below, IMO. That's when I'm more likely to switch back to my car, never in the summer.

Oh and another thing I love about my ebike in the summer is not having to boil to death in my car while I wait for the a/c to kick in.

This is true.

Anonymous wrote:It seems pretty inconsistent (and by inconsistent I mean laughably hypocritical) to be anti-car and then take advantage of rideshare services and home delivery.

I mean, if you’re anti-car, you have to live ot 24/7/365 - not just when the weather suits you.

Do we?

(Tip - being personally car free does not mean you never use a vehicle.)

Get deliveries, walk slowly to metro, take ubers. In fact the most uncomfortable I’ve been this week has been in a private car (too hot before A/C kicked in and the ride was far too long out to the exurbs).

Worked from home today, but have been taking the metro like I always do for all the other 90+ degree days recently.

It seems pretty inconsistent (and by inconsistent I mean laughably hypocritical) to be anti-car and then take advantage of rideshare services and home delivery.

I mean, if you’re anti-car, you have to live ot 24/7/365 - not just when the weather suits you.

They deliver you know.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not an anti car person, in fact I own one. But fwiw, my ebike is my primary mode of transportation and it feels great in this heat. You'd really be surprised at how cooling it is to ride an ebike.

Of course, it cuts both ways. It feels frigid when the temps are 50 or below, IMO. That's when I'm more likely to switch back to my car, never in the summer.

Oh and another thing I love about my ebike in the summer is not having to boil to death in my car while I wait for the a/c to kick in.

I'm not an anti car person, in fact I own one. But fwiw, my ebike is my primary mode of transportation and it feels great in this heat. You'd really be surprised at how cooling it is to ride an ebike.

Of course, it cuts both ways. It feels frigid when the temps are 50 or below, IMO. That's when I'm more likely to switch back to my car, never in the summer.

Ubering? Staying home? How does this even work? I was dying just loading and unloading my groceries from the car!