Anonymous wrote:Dd is 21 and has said since she was a little girl that she didn't want kids.

Same.

Anonymous wrote:My Gen Z kids say they have no interest in bringing children into a world they believe is doomed. Maybe in time they’ll change their minds, but in not going to get my hopes up for grandchildren.

same

Anonymous wrote:Well they don’t boink unless it’s on camera for views. So if they aren’t porking each other it stands to reason they will make fewer rugrats.

NP You are a very crass person, pp. Why should Gen z women have kids? The whole system is against mothers and women.

Dd is 21 and has said since she was a little girl that she didn't want kids.

Anonymous wrote:Unless one has time, money, flexible job, helpful spouse and a supportive network, having children is the biggest source of stress and struggle.

I agree that this is how many young adults see it. So if it comes down to resources time money will child bearing and child rearing be socioeconomic in the future? Only the rich will procreate?

Of my 3, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the oldest doesn't have kids because of the state of the world. #3 I feel sure will because he has no problem getting GFs, and he has such a sunny outlook on life. #2 may if he ends up with someone and she wants them, but he has ADHD and accompanying anxiety, so it's not a given that he'll end up in an LTR.

The bigger question may be whether they actually can, given all the endocrine disruptors they've been exposed to.

I have read that most young men want kids and most young women don’t (according to a survey I saw).

I think it is because the young women see that they are forced to choose between quality parenting and achieving their career goals. Men, historically, have not had to choose between those two aspirations. It is a problem.

Society better re-align. Right now there is still an assumption that there is a wife at home during the day, to handle home and child care logistics

Unless one has time, money, flexible job, helpful spouse and a supportive network, having children is the biggest source of stress and struggle.

My DD (18) says she's not having kids, just doesn't want them. DS (20) says he'd like to have kids. But he's also never been in a relationship so who knows when that will happen. DH was 40 when he was born so it could be a long time.

I think they will have kids but will have fewer overall and more will choose not to have kids at all even if coupled.

I think there is tons of anxiety in Gen Z over economic and political instability as well as climate change. I also think American parenting culture has lost it's mind and younger people see this and are like "oh no thank you." I don't think it's that they fundamentally don't want kids or dont' see the appeal of being a parent. But from a pragmatic standpoint we've made parenting maximally difficult (limited inter-generational help plus it's super expensive so you probably both have to work but also the standards are sky high so even though you are working and have limited if any family help you are also expected to be super involved and your children should never be alone even for a second and also they need to learn to read by 4 and should be in a million activities -- also college will cots a billion dollars so be prepared for that).

Like we've just made parenthood a stupid proposition and on top of it people are stressed about the economy and the climate. I'm a mom (cusp of Gen X and millenials) and I love being a mom and also sometimes I wonder what we're all doing because this is so much harder than it really needs to be.

My Gen Z kids say they have no interest in bringing children into a world they believe is doomed. Maybe in time they’ll change their minds, but in not going to get my hopes up for grandchildren.

I don't know about more kids or quantity. But based on the pairing up of DC's friends, it seems they are more into long-term relationships than the millennials were at this age. Topics of marriage and kids do come up.

My kids do eventually want kids in the same way that I did, meaning they are not “omg I can’t wait to have kids”, but they assume they will. They are marrying later so it will be interesting to see how it goes. Has mine in my early 30s which seems in line with their thoughts.

Well they don’t boink unless it’s on camera for views. So if they aren’t porking each other it stands to reason they will make fewer rugrats.

Based on your views and perceptions, how do you think Gen Z will handle having kids, will they have more kids or less kids? It seems like for the oldest Zoomers, they aren’t having much kids.