Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 19:54     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the goal was Harris, Dems would be talking 25th amendment. The fact that they are not indicates they don't want that outcome.


You don't get it. Biden needs to be convinced, not forced. He's known to be stubborn, so it's going to take a lot of convincing. The 25th amendment would cause lasting resentment and damage. That's a MAGA dream, but not in Democrats' interest.

And Democrats are very fractured right now. Stop talking about "what Democrats want". A lot of them don't even know what they want, because they see grave risk whichever option they pick, which means that inertia and Biden might win the day. Thank goodness some people have had the courage to say publicly what many think privately - that Biden should step aside. I hope the dam has breached and Biden will be convinced to make a graceful exit. I'd say the chances are still in favor of a Trump/Biden election right now. Which would mean Trump as President given his debate momentum, the news from the judiciary and the polls. This time in 2020, Biden was statistically ahead.

Biden is not in the driver's seat. He was set up with the early debate and was too far gone mentally to see the trap. The Dems driving the move to replace him know what they want; a nominee that is not Biden, not Harris.


Stop with the conspiracy theories. Biden wanted, and still ostensibly wants, a second term. His family is for the moment very supportive of that. A LOT of Democrat lawmakers and big donors did NOT want Biden for a second term, but it's really hard to tell a sitting President that they shouldn't run again, when a lot of previous Presidents have done so. Even now, only a very few D congresspeople have gone there.

This is all on Biden. He has to relent. Influential Democrats were giving him plenty of space to come to that realization on his own, but if he doesn't change his mind, there's going to be pressure applied from the donors, lawmakers, polls and the media. We'll see how it goes.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 19:50     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the goal was Harris, Dems would be talking 25th amendment. The fact that they are not indicates they don't want that outcome.


You don't get it. Biden needs to be convinced, not forced. He's known to be stubborn, so it's going to take a lot of convincing. The 25th amendment would cause lasting resentment and damage. That's a MAGA dream, but not in Democrats' interest.

And Democrats are very fractured right now. Stop talking about "what Democrats want". A lot of them don't even know what they want, because they see grave risk whichever option they pick, which means that inertia and Biden might win the day. Thank goodness some people have had the courage to say publicly what many think privately - that Biden should step aside. I hope the dam has breached and Biden will be convinced to make a graceful exit. I'd say the chances are still in favor of a Trump/Biden election right now. Which would mean Trump as President given his debate momentum, the news from the judiciary and the polls. This time in 2020, Biden was statistically ahead.

Biden is not in the driver's seat. He was set up with the early debate and was too far gone mentally to see the trap. The Dems driving the move to replace him know what they want; a nominee that is not Biden, not Harris.


So who is in charge? You sound like you know. Is it the Masons or the Illuminati?
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 19:48     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the goal was Harris, Dems would be talking 25th amendment. The fact that they are not indicates they don't want that outcome.


You don't get it. Biden needs to be convinced, not forced. He's known to be stubborn, so it's going to take a lot of convincing. The 25th amendment would cause lasting resentment and damage. That's a MAGA dream, but not in Democrats' interest.

And Democrats are very fractured right now. Stop talking about "what Democrats want". A lot of them don't even know what they want, because they see grave risk whichever option they pick, which means that inertia and Biden might win the day. Thank goodness some people have had the courage to say publicly what many think privately - that Biden should step aside. I hope the dam has breached and Biden will be convinced to make a graceful exit. I'd say the chances are still in favor of a Trump/Biden election right now. Which would mean Trump as President given his debate momentum, the news from the judiciary and the polls. This time in 2020, Biden was statistically ahead.

Biden is not in the driver's seat. He was set up with the early debate and was too far gone mentally to see the trap. The Dems driving the move to replace him know what they want; a nominee that is not Biden, not Harris.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 19:40     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
Anonymous wrote:This seems like a negotiation is underway about whether or not the inner city fraud machines will be turned on in November.


Chicago is only one city. And they put their guy prison...
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 19:39     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
Anonymous wrote:She still loses to him,but by less than other Democrats...


It's all within the margin of error.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 19:38     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
Anonymous wrote:If the goal was Harris, Dems would be talking 25th amendment. The fact that they are not indicates they don't want that outcome.


You don't get it. Biden needs to be convinced, not forced. He's known to be stubborn, so it's going to take a lot of convincing. The 25th amendment would cause lasting resentment and damage. That's a MAGA dream, but not in Democrats' interest.

And Democrats are very fractured right now. Stop talking about "what Democrats want". A lot of them don't even know what they want, because they see grave risk whichever option they pick, which means that inertia and Biden might win the day. Thank goodness some people have had the courage to say publicly what many think privately - that Biden should step aside. I hope the dam has breached and Biden will be convinced to make a graceful exit. I'd say the chances are still in favor of a Trump/Biden election right now. Which would mean Trump as President given his debate momentum, the news from the judiciary and the polls. This time in 2020, Biden was statistically ahead.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 19:29     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
If the goal was Harris, Dems would be talking 25th amendment. The fact that they are not indicates they don't want that outcome.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 19:17     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
That's why there are tons of lies about Harris circulating now. It's both the Trump and Biden camp who are spreading them.

But she was always a strong candidate.
She's much more articulate, youthful and energetic than Trump.
She can get funds transferred from the Biden campaign via a super PAC.
And she alone of all the Democrat alternates has the experience of already knowing how the White House works.

So yes, no wonder a lot of people see her as a threat.

Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 19:11     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
She still loses to him,but by less than other Democrats...
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 18:48     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
Kamala is popular in the swing states
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 18:46     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
According to WaPo -

Rep. James E. Clyburn (D-S.C.) opened the door to a post-Biden election, saying on MSNBC that he would support Vice President Harris were Biden to step aside.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/02/biden-debate-happy-talk/
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 18:06     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
WaPo's article, from which the graphs were lifted in the OP:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/07/02/biden-replacement-debate-harris-cnn-poll/
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 18:06     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
Anonymous wrote:


Is this the swing states? Otherwise who cares.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 18:04     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump
CNN's own article about their poll:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/02/politics/cnn-poll-post-debate/index.html
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 18:03     Subject: Harris for President: new poll shows she's got the most chance at beating Trump