Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 10:51     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

This is a positive for the ACLU. They lost their way during the dark times and started picking political favorites. I hope that this is a trend.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 10:47     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, it's kinda in their name. It's the American Civil Liberties Union, not the American Punish Bad Guys Union.

In fact, a lot of people had been criticizing them in recent years for just becoming more of a generic liberal organization that goes along with whatever woke cause comes up as opposed to civil liberties. Of course, when they do actually stand up for civil liberties you get people going 'omg aclu defends nazis'.
so terrorism is a civil liberty? If they had targetted a pride event do you think the aclu would be defending them?

DP. If the govt used illegal surveillance methods against private citizens it's still likely, no matter what the event was.
Anonymous
Post 07/02/2024 10:23     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

Anonymous wrote:I mean, it's kinda in their name. It's the American Civil Liberties Union, not the American Punish Bad Guys Union.

In fact, a lot of people had been criticizing them in recent years for just becoming more of a generic liberal organization that goes along with whatever woke cause comes up as opposed to civil liberties. Of course, when they do actually stand up for civil liberties you get people going 'omg aclu defends nazis'.
so terrorism is a civil liberty? If they had targetted a pride event do you think the aclu would be defending them?
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 18:01     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

I mean, it's kinda in their name. It's the American Civil Liberties Union, not the American Punish Bad Guys Union.

In fact, a lot of people had been criticizing them in recent years for just becoming more of a generic liberal organization that goes along with whatever woke cause comes up as opposed to civil liberties. Of course, when they do actually stand up for civil liberties you get people going 'omg aclu defends nazis'.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 14:37     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

They’ve always been into Devil’s Advocacy.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 13:38     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They are very consistent with free speech views and will defend people that are terrible if they have a legal case.


Yeah. But this is not that.


Correct, this is not about the First Amendment, it's about the Fourth Amendment.

Attorneys from the American Civil Liberties Union’s National Security Project have joined the defense team for Brandon Clint Russell, the neo-Nazi accused of plotting to attack power substations around Baltimore.

Their involvement stems from questions raised in recent weeks by Russell’s attorneys about whether federal authorities used and have failed to disclose the use of a controversial foreign surveillance tool in the investigation that foiled the alleged plot.

The ACLU’s Ashley Gorski, a senior staff attorney, said in a statement that the group joined for the limited purpose of challenging the government’s warrantless backdoor searches, saying they believe it occurred in this case and is “a rare and important opportunity” to challenge the practice.

“For the ACLU, this is about about government abuse and power,” Gorski said. “In defending the Fourth Amendment Rights at stake in this case, we seek to ensure that all Americans are protected from warrantless government surveillance.”
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 13:26     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

Based ACLU
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 12:18     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

Anonymous wrote:They are very consistent with free speech views and will defend people that are terrible if they have a legal case.


Yeah. But this is not that.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 12:16     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

They are very consistent with free speech views and will defend people that are terrible if they have a legal case.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 12:11     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

This sounds like they're taking this up to challenge an existing policy that was just re-upped. Good luck with that.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 12:11     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

The law applies to everyone, including the government.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 11:54     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

Anonymous wrote:the ACLU has gone off the rails in many areas.


The march in Skokie was in 1977. Nearly 50 years ago.

They've been remarkably consistent.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 11:53     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

the ACLU has gone off the rails in many areas.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 11:49     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station

They believe that everyone has rights. Not just the people we like.
Anonymous
Post 06/27/2024 11:47     Subject: Aclu defends neo Nazi who plotted to attack power station