Op , none of us know whether this is a good plan for ED without knowing your daughter’s stats and where she goes to school (public, private, geographical area). ED doesn’t help tremendously at any of the schools you listed and all are lottery schools.

To be accepted at Yale, she will need perfect grades and near perfect LSATs. Also highly unlikely for any student.

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Anonymous wrote:Steer her as well as you can towards Dartmouth. Small colleges like Claremont Mckenna and Amherst are traps for students who can't get into real universities and struggle with the real world. If she can't learn without a professor spoon feeding her everything, she'll fail in life.

Baloney.
Amherst and Williams have excellent reputations and are law pipelines just one notch under the top ivies.

Claremont...not the same league at all. On par with BC as far as law likelihood.

Claremont is on the same level as Upenn and is higher law likelihood than Cornell, UChicago, and Northwestern. None of these schools are significantly different for law school outcomes.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]DC is pre-law and wants to do biglaw like everyone else. She needs to go to a top law school, so this choice really matters for her.

Currently her Ed choices are:

Claremont McKenna (I know don’t laugh, but she’s hell bent that this is the right place “for her”)

Amherst (many questions marks on this one)

And Dartmouth (to me, this is the right answer).

If the goal is Yale/Columbia Law, which is the right choice?
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Amherst or Dartmouth will both have essentially the same shot at Big Law: assuming the same LSAT score, and one that is competitive, the top 25-30% of prelaw applicants get into T14 law schools from these schools, which is needed for a realistic shot at Big Law. You do not need Yale or Coumbia LAW specifically for big law, but if that is really a goal, then aim higher than Amherst/Dartmouth. Undergrad at Yale/Harvard/Penn/Duke/other t10 undergrad will do better than those amherst/dartmouth : the top 50% or slightly more can get into the T14. These 4 schools have a higher % who matriculate at T5 law, and they are pipelines to the DOJ and other top internships that top law schools love.

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Per capita, Amherst creates a significant amount of lawyers-it is second amongst all colleges and universities: https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-law-school

It has been a top law school producer for decades. All of these schools are great options and will get you into a T14.

Where you go to undergrad matters very little to your T14 admissions chances. Crushing it wherever you go matters a lot. So she should go where she'll crush it.

Anonymous wrote:Steer her as well as you can towards Dartmouth. Small colleges like Claremont Mckenna and Amherst are traps for students who can't get into real universities and struggle with the real world. If she can't learn without a professor spoon feeding her everything, she'll fail in life.

Baloney.
Amherst and Williams have excellent reputations and are law pipelines just one notch under the top ivies.

Claremont...not the same league at all. On par with BC as far as law likelihood.

[quote=Anonymous]DC is pre-law and wants to do biglaw like everyone else. She needs to go to a top law school, so this choice really matters for her.

Currently her Ed choices are:

Claremont McKenna (I know don’t laugh, but she’s hell bent that this is the right place “for her”)

Amherst (many questions marks on this one)

And Dartmouth (to me, this is the right answer).

If the goal is Yale/Columbia Law, which is the right choice?
[/quote]

Amherst or Dartmouth will both have essentially the same shot at Big Law: assuming the same LSAT score, and one that is competitive, the top 25-30% of prelaw applicants get into T14 law schools from these schools, which is needed for a realistic shot at Big Law. You do not need Yale or Coumbia LAW specifically for big law, but if that is really a goal, then aim higher than Amherst/Dartmouth. Undergrad at Yale/Harvard/Penn/Duke/other t10 undergrad will do better than those amherst/dartmouth : the top 50% or slightly more can get into the T14. These 4 schools have a higher % who matriculate at T5 law, and they are pipelines to the DOJ and other top internships that top law schools love.

Anonymous wrote:What college still has "prelaw?" It's not a major.

I have the same question. I went to a rather large law school and didn't know anyone that was a prelaw major.

I wouldn't stress over the undergrad school if the goal is law school. If you are smart enough to get into Yale from Amherst then you are probably can get into Yale from James Madison or VCU.

Anonymous wrote:Has she been accepted to any of the three? If not, I wouldn't worry about it.

Well she does need to make an ED1 choice, so this isn't a "push till next year" idea.

Has she been accepted to any of the three? If not, I wouldn't worry about it.

What college still has "prelaw?" It's not a major.

Claremont McKenna is amazing and will prepare her well. Second choice Amherst.

Dartmouth is easily the answer. Law schools love ivy grads.

Steer her as well as you can towards Dartmouth. Small colleges like Claremont Mckenna and Amherst are traps for students who can't get into real universities and struggle with the real world. If she can't learn without a professor spoon feeding her everything, she'll fail in life.

This is a joke right?

DC is pre-law and wants to do biglaw like everyone else. She needs to go to a top law school, so this choice really matters for her.

Currently her Ed choices are:

Claremont McKenna (I know don’t laugh, but she’s hell bent that this is the right place “for her”)

Amherst (many questions marks on this one)

And Dartmouth (to me, this is the right answer).

If the goal is Yale/Columbia Law, which is the right choice?