Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 18:36     Subject: Benchmark advanced

How are you able to get it removed? I am sure that Fairfax signed a contract but just curious how you were able to make it go away.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 16:17     Subject: Benchmark advanced

Anonymous wrote:MCPS had the updated 2022 version, including updated-updates before the 2022 version was out. I worked with grades K, 1, 3, and 5 during the Benchmark years and it was not good. The passages are by and large uninteresting, and have a very white bread perspective. There was no room for struggling readers or multilingual students, and my high flyers were just disinterested. The 1st grade curriculum was the least awful, in my experience, and the phonics components were very good. But even within 1st grade, we adapted a LOT of the material to cover the same skills but with different texts. Same in third grade. It lends really well to teachers who like to create organizers and teach students how to plan their writing, but I don't think that's a component that's unique to Benchmark.

A lot of it is missed opportunity in my opinions. For example, a lesson for using on leaders in 1st grade had Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and Martin Luther King. Two presidents? No women? Nobody in other leadership areas? (It's not explicitly focused on government leaders, yet 2/3 people featured are). It left my students confused and took many way too long to grasp the concept of what leadership is and what it looks like. We used to teach it in gradual progression, like parents/adults lead the family, a teacher leads the classroom, a principal leads a school, and so on.

Anyway, sorry for the diatribe, but I was not a fan. At my school, the kindergarten teachers gave up and didn't even teach it after the first year. They swapped out all the materials for old stuff they'd used before or a free curriculum online (which is actually published by CKLA lol).


The free CKLA curriculum is awesome. We supplemented with it during our ES time because Benchmark was so bad. Very glad MCPS has adopted CKLA for ES next year.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 16:15     Subject: Benchmark advanced

Anonymous wrote:Do you know which version Montgomery county was using? Was it the updated 2022 version or an earlier one?


MCPS did a pilot with the new version last year. Ours was a pilot school, and it did not go well. The phonics instruction was not good — M CO S dropped the pilot and is having all schools she Really Great Reading this year. It is much better.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 16:11     Subject: Benchmark advanced

Benchmark is awful. I’m sorry, OP, that FCPS is adopting it. My kid is grateful to be in MsSnow so he doesn’t have Benchmark anymore—the month spent on corn in 5th grade was especially bad, but the units generally were insipid.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 15:01     Subject: Benchmark advanced

Anonymous wrote:MCPS had the updated 2022 version, including updated-updates before the 2022 version was out. I worked with grades K, 1, 3, and 5 during the Benchmark years and it was not good. The passages are by and large uninteresting, and have a very white bread perspective. There was no room for struggling readers or multilingual students, and my high flyers were just disinterested. The 1st grade curriculum was the least awful, in my experience, and the phonics components were very good. But even within 1st grade, we adapted a LOT of the material to cover the same skills but with different texts. Same in third grade. It lends really well to teachers who like to create organizers and teach students how to plan their writing, but I don't think that's a component that's unique to Benchmark.

A lot of it is missed opportunity in my opinions. For example, a lesson for using on leaders in 1st grade had Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and Martin Luther King. Two presidents? No women? Nobody in other leadership areas? (It's not explicitly focused on government leaders, yet 2/3 people featured are). It left my students confused and took many way too long to grasp the concept of what leadership is and what it looks like. We used to teach it in gradual progression, like parents/adults lead the family, a teacher leads the classroom, a principal leads a school, and so on.

Anyway, sorry for the diatribe, but I was not a fan. At my school, the kindergarten teachers gave up and didn't even teach it after the first year. They swapped out all the materials for old stuff they'd used before or a free curriculum online (which is actually published by CKLA lol).


Interesting to hear this because given test scores the old material seemed to be failing a lot of students.

I also don’t understand why all K-5 and heck K-12 teachers would not be committed to teaching kids to plan their writing and go through the entire writing process. This is a main complaint at the collegiate level and heck HS level that kids are missing (or not using) this skill. Instead of creating an outline or proofreading to ensure logical flow of thoughts and ideas, they are instead just writing off vibes.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 14:53     Subject: Benchmark advanced

This is really awful. I have no doubt that FCPS signed like a 5-year contract so we're probably stuck with this.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 14:09     Subject: Benchmark advanced

MCPS had the updated 2022 version, including updated-updates before the 2022 version was out. I worked with grades K, 1, 3, and 5 during the Benchmark years and it was not good. The passages are by and large uninteresting, and have a very white bread perspective. There was no room for struggling readers or multilingual students, and my high flyers were just disinterested. The 1st grade curriculum was the least awful, in my experience, and the phonics components were very good. But even within 1st grade, we adapted a LOT of the material to cover the same skills but with different texts. Same in third grade. It lends really well to teachers who like to create organizers and teach students how to plan their writing, but I don't think that's a component that's unique to Benchmark.

A lot of it is missed opportunity in my opinions. For example, a lesson for using on leaders in 1st grade had Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, and Martin Luther King. Two presidents? No women? Nobody in other leadership areas? (It's not explicitly focused on government leaders, yet 2/3 people featured are). It left my students confused and took many way too long to grasp the concept of what leadership is and what it looks like. We used to teach it in gradual progression, like parents/adults lead the family, a teacher leads the classroom, a principal leads a school, and so on.

Anyway, sorry for the diatribe, but I was not a fan. At my school, the kindergarten teachers gave up and didn't even teach it after the first year. They swapped out all the materials for old stuff they'd used before or a free curriculum online (which is actually published by CKLA lol).
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 12:43     Subject: Benchmark advanced

Do you know which version Montgomery county was using? Was it the updated 2022 version or an earlier one?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 12:33     Subject: Benchmark advanced

Benchmark Advance is not above grade level it is an on level program. There is additional content for differentiation of above grade level students. The hardest part of Benchmark is that it offers a lot of things that teachers can use. Which while great to have all the resources, can be overwhelming for many especially given class size and available planning time. I think teachers and teams would need multi day training from Benchmark SMEs to really get a handle on it. Additionally districts/teaching teams/schools really need to dig to agree on what differentiation items they are going to use for what grades and types of learners.

Really good implementation planning/training/support is required and I haven’t found most school districts (especially large school districts) to be great at the above. Partly because the trainers tend not to be SME’s on the particular thing.

It does get students doing close reading earlier and the Benchmark Advance is supposed to have better phonics and be aligned to Science of Reading.

Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 11:51     Subject: Benchmark advanced

Does anyone understand what it means to meet the benchmark for the MAP test? Only 50% of our 5th graders met the benchmark, while around 98% of students in grades K-2 achieved it.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 11:23     Subject: Benchmark advanced

How am I supposed to explain to my own kids that this system is literally setting them up for failure? I have two still in elementary school and I can't believe that they will be taking assessments that they're meant to fail.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 10:47     Subject: Benchmark advanced

Oh wow. I'm glad you don't have it anymore but I'm so upset that the district is spending untold amount of money on a program that I have read does not even follow the science of reading as it purports. Teachers are going through training in the summer for this program and I have not found anything good from anyone about it.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 10:42     Subject: Benchmark advanced

No real good to it, which is why MCPS won’t be using it in the fall. They got a new curriculum (again).
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 10:42     Subject: Benchmark advanced

Nope.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 10:37     Subject: Benchmark advanced

I am reading up on benchmark advanced as we're starting it in the fall in FCPS. What has your experience been? All I keep reading is that the kids consistently fail the passages including strong readers because it's above grade level. I keep reading that the writing is abysmal. I wanted to hear it from parents who had experience rather than random Reddit parents. Is there any good to this program?