Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 09:05     Subject: Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anecdotally, these are my findings as well.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 09:00     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Having a significant jump in hitting and killing pedestrians, doesn't make Maryland drivers dangerous? I think I now know why they're dangerous. They think it's just random


Try reading the actual article where it literally says there is no single source to the pedestrian safety issues and notes infrastructure is also contributing to pedestrian safety.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:59     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Just drive the beltway and Rt. 50 and the findings will be conclusive. MD drivers are the worst and the most dangerous.


Maryland has some awful drivers. Yes.

But pedestrians are hit on these roads?

Do pedestrians make good choices in MD?


You think there are more fatal pedestrian crashes because people in MD are worse at walking?


I’m a different poster but believe it or not I do think this is a factor. When I drive Veirs Mill in Wheaton, people regularly walk right in front of me when I’m going 40 mph on a major road. This must either be customary in the countries they come from, or they come from places with smaller roads and fewer cars.


Counterpoint - I am white, multi-generation American, Advanced degrees (all to say, this isn’t an OtHeR cUlTuReS issue), and live in Bethesda. Despite a walking culture, plentiful crosswalks, hawk signals, etc I take my life into my hands everytime I cross Wisconsin because the drivers (of all states and DC, VA is plentifully represented) don’t follow law and yield to pedestrians. My 80 year old neighbor was hit because some impatient jerk raced into the third lane when the other two lanes were yielding and is fortunately not dead.
They are speeding, distracted, and just plain entitled glassbowls who believe that rules are for other drivers.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:54     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Just drive the beltway and Rt. 50 and the findings will be conclusive. MD drivers are the worst and the most dangerous.


Maryland has some awful drivers. Yes.

But pedestrians are hit on these roads?

Do pedestrians make good choices in MD?


You think there are more fatal pedestrian crashes because people in MD are worse at walking?


Np. i believe PPs point was there are no pedestrians on the beltway and Route 50 - hence the “on these roads” and implying anyone actively crossing those roads, absent an emergency (break down) is not making good choices.
It’s not that Marylanders are worse at walking…
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:49     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Just drive the beltway and Rt. 50 and the findings will be conclusive. MD drivers are the worst and the most dangerous.


Maryland has some awful drivers. Yes.

But pedestrians are hit on these roads?

Do pedestrians make good choices in MD?


You think there are more fatal pedestrian crashes because people in MD are worse at walking?


I’m a different poster but believe it or not I do think this is a factor. When I drive Veirs Mill in Wheaton, people regularly walk right in front of me when I’m going 40 mph on a major road. This must either be customary in the countries they come from, or they come from places with smaller roads and fewer cars.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:34     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Just drive the beltway and Rt. 50 and the findings will be conclusive. MD drivers are the worst and the most dangerous.


Maryland has some awful drivers. Yes.

But pedestrians are hit on these roads?

Do pedestrians make good choices in MD?


You think there are more fatal pedestrian crashes because people in MD are worse at walking?


Have you been to Langley Park? Have you seen the behavior of pedestrians there?

It's probably a combination of awful drivers, bad infrastructure, and bad pedestrian choices.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:30     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Just drive the beltway and Rt. 50 and the findings will be conclusive. MD drivers are the worst and the most dangerous.


Maryland has some awful drivers. Yes.

But pedestrians are hit on these roads?

Do pedestrians make good choices in MD?


You think there are more fatal pedestrian crashes because people in MD are worse at walking?


It's Maryland driver logic.

Maryland drivers are FAR less likely to stop for pedestrians in crosswalks, in my experience. They almost take it as a challenge to ignore you.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:24     Subject: Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Ah. Yes, everyone, watch out for my teen driver.

Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:20     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Just drive the beltway and Rt. 50 and the findings will be conclusive. MD drivers are the worst and the most dangerous.


Maryland has some awful drivers. Yes.

But pedestrians are hit on these roads?

Do pedestrians make good choices in MD?


You think there are more fatal pedestrian crashes because people in MD are worse at walking?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:19     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Just drive the beltway and Rt. 50 and the findings will be conclusive. MD drivers are the worst and the most dangerous.


Theres nothing in that article that suggest that MD fatalities are 100% by MD drivers and that includes statistics in any state.

I drive 50 between Bowie and Annapolis 2x per day for camp and at least 1/2 of the cars are non-MD plates.

With that said, pedestrian safety is not a top concern for anyone in the state- local all up to Gov. Nor is speeding. Nor is reckless driving. Nor is funding transportation for all students that attend public schools in the state. Pedestrian crossings are at most- two strips of white line and a sign placed randomly, usually covered by tree overgrowth, with cars speeding 40-50 mph in a 20-25mph.
Do the cops give tickets? No.
Do the cops stand at crossings to catch people speeding or not stopping for pedestrians? No
Do we have crossing guards at intersections? No.

People who dont walk dont value pedestrians and think that the car is primary. You have people in cars 24/7. They dont care.


Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:09     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Just drive the beltway and Rt. 50 and the findings will be conclusive. MD drivers are the worst and the most dangerous.


Maryland has some awful drivers. Yes.

But pedestrians are hit on these roads?

Do pedestrians make good choices in MD?
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:06     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Having a significant jump in hitting and killing pedestrians, doesn't make Maryland drivers dangerous? I think I now know why they're dangerous. They think it's just random
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:03     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Anonymous wrote:Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.


Just drive the beltway and Rt. 50 and the findings will be conclusive. MD drivers are the worst and the most dangerous.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:01     Subject: Re:Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

Interesting that you draw the conclusion in your tittle from that story.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 07:57     Subject: Maryland drivers are dangerous - facts and data

WTOP: New report finds fatal pedestrian crashes down nationally, but not in Maryland
https://wtop.com/local/2024/06/new-report-finds-fatal-pedestrian-crashes-down-nationally-but-not-here/

"While the nationwide numbers are lower, both Maryland and D.C. saw increases from 2022. The increase in the District was small — 20 fatal pedestrian crashes last year compared to 19 in 2022.

But in Maryland, the increase was much higher. Statewide, there were 161 crashes that left a pedestrian dead last year — 24 more than the year before

California, Arizona, New York and Virginia saw the most significant declines in such crashes, with 38 fewer pedestrians dying on Virginia roads last year. Even though Maryland is a much smaller state, 28 more pedestrians died on its roads last year compared to Virginia."