Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 12:49     Subject: Relay Carnival
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NVSL reviews all the cards to make sure the times are entered in correctly - hence the 24 hour rule.

I used to think that was silly but this year we have had numerous issues with times being entered wrong and needing to be corrected.


22 events * 102 teams = 2,244 cards! How many people at the NVSL level are reviewing each and every one of those cards? I thought each division was responsible for verifying data accuracy, at the meet, hence the position of verifier.


They review the top 50 or so in each stroke.

They are verified at the meet and then again at the meeting that division coordinators attend. Mistakes are found but that’s why they double check.


Last year 1:17.96 was good enough for 70th place in boys 9-10 100 free relay, while 1:07.70 was 8th place. The additional NVSL level review you are describing doesn't guard against the case where someone fat fingers 1:07.70 into 1:17.70 and sends a team that was rightfully 8th outside of the scope of review for determining which teams ultimately make ASR.


That is very true. Hopefully reps and coaches are writing times from timer boards in and then comparing to the data. We do that at most meets. But there is always the chance something will slip through.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 10:47     Subject: Relay Carnival
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
NVSL reviews all the cards to make sure the times are entered in correctly - hence the 24 hour rule.

I used to think that was silly but this year we have had numerous issues with times being entered wrong and needing to be corrected.


22 events * 102 teams = 2,244 cards! How many people at the NVSL level are reviewing each and every one of those cards? I thought each division was responsible for verifying data accuracy, at the meet, hence the position of verifier.


They review the top 50 or so in each stroke.

They are verified at the meet and then again at the meeting that division coordinators attend. Mistakes are found but that’s why they double check.


Last year 1:17.96 was good enough for 70th place in boys 9-10 100 free relay, while 1:07.70 was 8th place. The additional NVSL level review you are describing doesn't guard against the case where someone fat fingers 1:07.70 into 1:17.70 and sends a team that was rightfully 8th outside of the scope of review for determining which teams ultimately make ASR.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 10:36     Subject: Relay Carnival
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
NVSL reviews all the cards to make sure the times are entered in correctly - hence the 24 hour rule.

I used to think that was silly but this year we have had numerous issues with times being entered wrong and needing to be corrected.


22 events * 102 teams = 2,244 cards! How many people at the NVSL level are reviewing each and every one of those cards? I thought each division was responsible for verifying data accuracy, at the meet, hence the position of verifier.


They review the top 50 or so in each stroke.

They are verified at the meet and then again at the meeting that division coordinators attend. Mistakes are found but that’s why they double check.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 10:27     Subject: Relay Carnival
Anonymous wrote:
NVSL reviews all the cards to make sure the times are entered in correctly - hence the 24 hour rule.

I used to think that was silly but this year we have had numerous issues with times being entered wrong and needing to be corrected.


22 events * 102 teams = 2,244 cards! How many people at the NVSL level are reviewing each and every one of those cards? I thought each division was responsible for verifying data accuracy, at the meet, hence the position of verifier.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 09:55     Subject: Relay Carnival

NVSL reviews all the cards to make sure the times are entered in correctly - hence the 24 hour rule.

I used to think that was silly but this year we have had numerous issues with times being entered wrong and needing to be corrected.
Anonymous
Post 06/26/2024 08:52     Subject: Re:Relay Carnival
Don't forget to have entertainment pre-positioned in your cars for waiting out the storms. We're also encouraging families to plan ahead to have relay teams gather in a single car if one of the parents has the room. More fun for them plus easier to reconstitute once the meet gets going again.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 20:07     Subject: Relay Carnival
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In NVSL, there is a 24 hour embargo on the results so team reps can have the relay all-stars meeting and certify the results before sharing them.

I don’t recall certifying anything as a team rep. There is an ASR seeding meeting Thursday night. The division coordinators release the results to the reps after that.


You are right, my mistake. It’s the Division Coordinators, Executive Board, and All-Star Committee members who meet the night after ASRs to seed and release the results. Thank you!
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 19:58     Subject: Relay Carnival
All results will be posted following the All Star Relay seeding meeting attended by the executive board, technology committee, division coordinators and additional dedicated volunteers.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 19:13     Subject: Relay Carnival
Anonymous wrote:In NVSL, there is a 24 hour embargo on the results so team reps can have the relay all-stars meeting and certify the results before sharing them.

I don’t recall certifying anything as a team rep. There is an ASR seeding meeting Thursday night. The division coordinators release the results to the reps after that.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 18:54     Subject: Relay Carnival
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In NVSL, there is a 24 hour embargo on the results so team reps can have the relay all-stars meeting and certify the results before sharing them.


In this day and age, why is this necessary? All the data is in with multiple checks and it is just as accurate as A meet data and All Star results, all of which is immediately available.


Because people make mistakes typing stuff in. It definitely happens. You’d hate to tell some kids they made all stars and then a data check comes back where there was actually a team ahead of them who’s time was just entered wrong.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 18:46     Subject: Relay Carnival
Anonymous wrote:In NVSL, there is a 24 hour embargo on the results so team reps can have the relay all-stars meeting and certify the results before sharing them.


In this day and age, why is this necessary? All the data is in with multiple checks and it is just as accurate as A meet data and All Star results, all of which is immediately available.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 16:46     Subject: Relay Carnival
In NVSL, there is a 24 hour embargo on the results so team reps can have the relay all-stars meeting and certify the results before sharing them.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 16:26     Subject: Relay Carnival
It will take even longer to post the results this year if some divisions are still swimming at midnight after waiting out the t'storms.
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 16:02     Subject: Relay Carnival
The waiting to post results is intentional, so I wouldn’t get your hopes up that will change.

The weather looks like we might escape thunder until after?
Anonymous
Post 06/25/2024 16:01     Subject: Relay Carnival
Here’s hoping the weather holds and it doesn’t take the forever to post the results like last year!