I think the housing crisis is really bad. When will politicians do something about it? You would think they would be happy to work with developers.

Anonymous wrote:OP, it is young republican men.

Don't forget, in the eyes of the GOP, liberal men aren't real men.

If they are white and American, probably. But this discussion was about worldwide trends.

OP, it is young republican men.

Don't forget, in the eyes of the GOP, liberal men aren't real men.

Growing up and maturing is hard. I think it can be harder to raise sons because there is still a lot of cultural pressure on men to be hyper masculine. In some ways, rasing a daughter can be more because there is a lot of tolerance of many different paths feminine, athletic, aggressive, passive, maternal, career focused, ballet or ice hockey...it's all fine. Not so much for still for sons. In my daughters ballet classes there were literally 90 young girls and one boy.

Women don't need men nearly as much as they used to.

From that discussion:

"Evans: ... Now, a third and really important factor is that it’s become harder to get girlfriends. So as societies become more culturally liberal, open minded, and tolerant, women are no longer shamed, derided, and ostracized for being single without a boyfriend. You know, in previous decades or centuries—

Demsas: I don’t know. Some women are.

Evans: Well, compare over time, over time, right? So this isn’t saying there’s zero stigma. It’s saying, Look at change over time. So in previous decades, a woman who was not married and didn’t have babies by the time she was 30 might be seen as a total loser and totally stigmatized. That’s true in South Korea, China, Japan, the U.S., and Europe.

But as women are not facing that pressure and that ostracism, they can become financially independent. Women’s wages are approximating men’s. They can inherit parental wealth and buy their own property. So that means that women don’t necessarily need a man. So demand for male partners has plummeted because of that economic development and cultural liberalization. As a result, Pew data tells us that 39 percent of adult American men are currently unpartnered."

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Anonymous wrote:When both major political parties adopt open misogyny as a key part of their political platform, this is the result. Predictable.

A date that craps on trans people is also most definitely not a status symbol.

Neither is one that embraces sexism enthusiastically, yet here we are.

Tolerance is sexy and shows confidence. Intolerance indicates insecurity and is a turn off.

Nobody buys your sexist gaslighting any more. Try something else.

Not sexy.

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Anonymous wrote:When both major political parties adopt open misogyny as a key part of their political platform, this is the result. Predictable.

A date that craps on trans people is also most definitely not a status symbol.

Neither is one that embraces sexism enthusiastically, yet here we are.

Tolerance is sexy and shows confidence. Intolerance indicates insecurity and is a turn off.

Nobody buys your sexist gaslighting any more. Try something else.

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Anonymous wrote:When both major political parties adopt open misogyny as a key part of their political platform, this is the result. Predictable.

A date that craps on trans people is also most definitely not a status symbol.

Neither is one that embraces sexism enthusiastically, yet here we are.

Tolerance is sexy and shows confidence. Intolerance indicates insecurity and is a turn off.

If and when these young men could actually attract a mate and possibly father a daughter....all of sudden sexist men are not so great anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:When both major political parties adopt open misogyny as a key part of their political platform, this is the result. Predictable.

A date that craps on trans people is also most definitely not a status symbol.

Neither is one that embraces sexism enthusiastically, yet here we are.

Anonymous wrote:When both major political parties adopt open misogyny as a key part of their political platform, this is the result. Predictable.

A date that craps on trans people is also most definitely not a status symbol.

When both major political parties adopt open misogyny as a key part of their political platform, this is the result. Predictable.

Anonymous wrote:Ick.

Double ick. No wonder women don't want to date them. A sexist guy is most definitely not a status symbol.

Ick.

Great discussion posted on the Atlantic about the trend where it at least seems like young men are becoming more sexist.
https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2024/06/young-men-sexist-feminism-gender/678764/

Whether this is actually true or not seems to depend on how you define sexism. For example, young men are very likely to say that women should be able to do what they want, work at the jobs they want, and would be just as if not more likely to support women for elected office. Young men are more likely to recognize women as having equal capabilities. But, that said, there does seem to be a lot more gender resentment toward women by young men than by older men. The person interviewed was Dr. Alice Evans, a professor at Stanford.

As part of explaining what's going on, she says:

"[M]en care about status. Everyone cares about status. Big examples of status goods include getting a great place at university, being able to afford a nice house, and also having a beautiful girlfriend. Those three things—good education because that matters for signaling, for credentials; good place to live; and a pretty, pretty wife or girlfriend—those are your three status goods. Each of those three things has become much, much harder to get." Older men are more likely to have these kinds of status markers. They maybe got their own place when it was cheaper, they don't view themselves as being at as much of a disadvantage when it comes to education or job positions; and they're more likely to have settled down with a partner.

She also talks about the social media bubbles that reinforces status-based resentments. A guy gets his ego wounded by being rejected by a girl, goes to the Internet where a group of bros tells him it's because women are terrible, and shows him a lot of love. He's going to listen to what they say - particularly when the loudest anti-man trolls are, at the same time, telling him men are terrible and oppressive.

It's a good discussion. Highly recommend.