Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:39
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
If it is a meaningful program, she should proceed. This is not her fault. And don’t listen to anyone telling her to lie. Be truthful.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:36
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd list it on activities section as the program she applied for and was accepted into. Seems cleaner and more honest.
How is this more honest if this is not where the work is actually done?
Not PP, but I think different people are imagining different things.
My assumption was that she applied for that John Doe internship at Big Company. The company also had a Harriet Tubman internship that she didn't apply to, doing pretty much the same thing but specifically targeting black women.
So she could write "John Doe Internship at Big Company" or write "Summer Intern at Big Company" and then in description say that she applied for John Doe which got combined with Harriet Tubman.
Or if she's applying to a program with short answers where it makes sense she could write about her mixed feelings, or something.
But even if she plans to use that space otherwise, then taking the internship and writing "Intern at Big Company" makes way more sense tha turning the internship down at this point in the summer.
OP. Similar situation. she applied to and was accepted to a departmental internship, say "summer intern in data analytics department" and this was folded into the "black women in STEM" program which has its own comprehensive programming.
there are only a tiny handful of kids like my kid who were impacted (and they're all female-not sure if the race of the other 2.)
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:34
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd list it on activities section as the program she applied for and was accepted into. Seems cleaner and more honest.
How is this more honest if this is not where the work is actually done?
What program name is listed in the offer e-mail or letter? The company is still essentially operating the original program with the resources of the second, URM-focused program. If they don't have budget and staff for the first one, they're not going to take time to make differentiated stationery for logistics going forward.
I think it's unethical to put confusing/misleading info on an app. You can retitle a work experience without being dishonest as long as the description is accurate: "Selective IBM internship program" "(for women).
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:25
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd list it on activities section as the program she applied for and was accepted into. Seems cleaner and more honest.
How is this more honest if this is not where the work is actually done?
Not PP, but I think different people are imagining different things.
My assumption was that she applied for that John Doe internship at Big Company. The company also had a Harriet Tubman internship that she didn't apply to, doing pretty much the same thing but specifically targeting black women.
So she could write "John Doe Internship at Big Company" or write "Summer Intern at Big Company" and then in description say that she applied for John Doe which got combined with Harriet Tubman.
Or if she's applying to a program with short answers where it makes sense she could write about her mixed feelings, or something.
But even if she plans to use that space otherwise, then taking the internship and writing "Intern at Big Company" makes way more sense tha turning the internship down at this point in the summer.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:24
Subject: Re:doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
What I dont understand is your last sentence. It is Wednesday. If she wants to back out, back out.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:23
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd list it on activities section as the program she applied for and was accepted into. Seems cleaner and more honest.
How is this more honest if this is not where the work is actually done?
because she's not a black woman in stem or whatever.
So she should lie about where she works? I don’t understand how this is the right answer. You’re making it sound like she is engaging in cultural appropriation rather than things happened beyond her control.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:22
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
she can say Internship at Google through Original Program Name Internship Opportunity Program.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:21
Subject: Re:doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Could she omit the word "Black" and just call it "Women in STEM?"
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:17
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'd list it on activities section as the program she applied for and was accepted into. Seems cleaner and more honest.
How is this more honest if this is not where the work is actually done?
because she's not a black woman in stem or whatever.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:12
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:I'd list it on activities section as the program she applied for and was accepted into. Seems cleaner and more honest.
How is this more honest if this is not where the work is actually done?
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:11
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:I'd list it on activities section as the program she applied for and was accepted into. Seems cleaner and more honest.
This would be my approach as well.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:10
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
I'd list it on activities section as the program she applied for and was accepted into. Seems cleaner and more honest.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:10
Subject: Re:doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Because of our fantastic court system, there’s a chance AOs will assume your daughter is black. But honestly, does it seem like an enriching experience for your daughter? It’s not up to you or your daughter to stop the AOs from doing the guess the race game, so do what you gotta. But that’s also just my opinion cause I mind my black business and keep it pushing❤️
Anonymous
06/19/2024 13:07
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
I think she just handles it in an honest way.
Pulling out of the internship would be ridiculous.
Pulling out of the internship would be ridiculous.
Anonymous
06/19/2024 12:59
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Thoughts on this?
My kid is doing a summer program that is meant for minorities (when she is not a minority).
She and a few other kids were merged into this program through another pathway (she applied for something else and the secondary program dropped it's hires into this slightly larger internship).
Do you think this could go wrong or help her college applications?
Essentially she is now a white girl doing an internship (at a major US company) for "Black women in XX industry"
She would consider backing out but it starts on Monday and she just found out.
Thoughts?
My kid is doing a summer program that is meant for minorities (when she is not a minority).
She and a few other kids were merged into this program through another pathway (she applied for something else and the secondary program dropped it's hires into this slightly larger internship).
Do you think this could go wrong or help her college applications?
Essentially she is now a white girl doing an internship (at a major US company) for "Black women in XX industry"
She would consider backing out but it starts on Monday and she just found out.
Thoughts?