Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.
TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.
The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.
A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.
The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.
These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.
I know for a fact that there are unhooked c/o ‘24 Sidwell students going to Ivies, in the 3.80 to 3.89 range. Unhooked as in non-legacy and not a recruited athlete. Being an URM is no longer considered a hook.
if they're URMS and writing about it in their essays they're definitely getting a bump.
They are getting the same “bump” as someone of Chinese, Polish, or French descent who writes about their heritage in their essays. Anything else is illegal.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.
TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.
The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.
A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.
The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.
These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.
I know for a fact that there are unhooked c/o ‘24 Sidwell students going to Ivies, in the 3.80 to 3.89 range. Unhooked as in non-legacy and not a recruited athlete. Being an URM is no longer considered a hook.
if they're URMS and writing about it in their essays they're definitely getting a bump.
They are getting the same “bump” as someone of Chinese, Polish, or French descent who writes about their heritage in their essays. Anything else is illegal.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.
TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.
The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.
A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.
The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.
These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.
I know for a fact that there are unhooked c/o ‘24 Sidwell students going to Ivies, in the 3.80 to 3.89 range. Unhooked as in non-legacy and not a recruited athlete. Being an URM is no longer considered a hook.
if they're URMS and writing about it in their essays they're definitely getting a bump.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.
TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.
The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.
A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.
The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.
These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.
I know for a fact that there are unhooked c/o ‘24 Sidwell students going to Ivies, in the 3.80 to 3.89 range. Unhooked as in non-legacy and not a recruited athlete. Being an URM is no longer considered a hook.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.
TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.
The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.
A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a top private (NCS, Sidwell, etc) is MAYBE going to get you into a top25 school.
You're really on the line.
My rising senor has this GPA and there is an OUTSIDE CHANCE of a top25 school (I've seen Scoir/Naviance). This kid may end up at a top40.
Once you're at 3.7 then you're really looking at schools around 40+ unless you have a hook.
The issue is that GPAs are deflated but there ARE kids who do very well and get 3.9+ GPAs plus there are a whole lot of hooked kids (kids of VIPs, etc). So if you're just getting a 3.8 your options are not great for top schools.
These schools are great for the hooked and the super, super smart kids. The middle ground kids would likely be better off in public where they would get a 4.0UW or close to it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mmoommoo wrote:At a school like NCS, 3.3-3.4 is right around the median GPA. This is cut throat.
However, their eximission tells a different story, a large percentage of students went to top colleges.
If you know better, then don’t ask.
How people define “top colleges” vary widely. Many NCS girls have hooks. The only ones who are attending schools I’d consider “top” were either at the top of their class or hooked.
This. The ones at the top schools were either hooked or top 20% (most top 10%).
I've seen the SCOIR data. It doesn't lie.
There is a LOT of optimism on DCUM about college admissions. The reality is different when you have a junior and are looking at the data.
Also the average GPA is 3.5-3.6 (not 3.3-3.4). This comes straight from college counseling.
We were told 3.4-3.5.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:mmoommoo wrote:At a school like NCS, 3.3-3.4 is right around the median GPA. This is cut throat.
However, their eximission tells a different story, a large percentage of students went to top colleges.
If you know better, then don’t ask.
How people define “top colleges” vary widely. Many NCS girls have hooks. The only ones who are attending schools I’d consider “top” were either at the top of their class or hooked.
This. The ones at the top schools were either hooked or top 20% (most top 10%).
I've seen the SCOIR data. It doesn't lie.
There is a LOT of optimism on DCUM about college admissions. The reality is different when you have a junior and are looking at the data.
Also the average GPA is 3.5-3.6 (not 3.3-3.4). This comes straight from college counseling.
Anonymous wrote:mmoommoo wrote:At a school like NCS, 3.3-3.4 is right around the median GPA. This is cut throat.
However, their eximission tells a different story, a large percentage of students went to top colleges.
If you know better, then don’t ask.
How people define “top colleges” vary widely. Many NCS girls have hooks. The only ones who are attending schools I’d consider “top” were either at the top of their class or hooked.
mmoommoo wrote:At a school like NCS, 3.3-3.4 is right around the median GPA. This is cut throat.
However, their eximission tells a different story, a large percentage of students went to top colleges.
Anonymous wrote:It’s clear you’re new to this board. Read through a few things. It’s been discussed as infinitum.
TLDR: depends on the school. Big state schools — UC Berkeley, UNC, UT, etc. - don’t have the staff to sift through schools.
The Ivy+’s know but only care if your kid is in the top 5-10 of their class from a top DC private with stellar test scores and exceptional ECs. 1550+ , 5s on APs, and superlative recommendations.
A 3.3 from a top private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.
A 3.8 from a mediocre private is not going to get a kid into a top 25 school.