Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 19:45     Subject: National Team U15

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The U16 team is very, very good. My friend’s dd is on it and I fully expect her to be on the USWNT in the future.


You might want to look at how many u16 national team players ever make to national team. The answer is not many. 15-18 years old are prime developmental years. Most of the u16 players will not make the u19 team let alone a professional team. Turn over on national teams is small. You are competing against not only your age group but 9-10 other age groups younger and older.


I am aware. And I still fully expect it.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 11:13     Subject: National Team U15

Anonymous wrote:The U16 team is very, very good. My friend’s dd is on it and I fully expect her to be on the USWNT in the future.


You might want to look at how many u16 national team players ever make to national team. The answer is not many. 15-18 years old are prime developmental years. Most of the u16 players will not make the u19 team let alone a professional team. Turn over on national teams is small. You are competing against not only your age group but 9-10 other age groups younger and older.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 11:05     Subject: National Team U15

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

80 players at u14. 30 or less after that.

The 2010 parents (probably Union) that post on DCUM are so oblivious. Good luck in Seattle!


No clue what you're talking about.

For everyone else, here is the Scouting web page from US Soccer:
https://www.ussoccer.com/talent-identification


Which part is wrong?
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 10:56     Subject: National Team U15

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like it is through connections as much as anything. They are good players but I don’t think it has as much to do about them being seen at an event as it is they have somebody advocating for them. One of those players has parents who both played in college and are connected.


Stop. Most/all players have advocates. Anyone selected for YNT is a great (not good) player.


Stop. Politics/advocacy play as large a role as talent at the younger age groups for YNT selections. Of course none of the kids are bad and they are all good (or better).


Seriously. Some of you are acting offended over something well known in basically every level/age of any sport. And I'm dying over the comment that all top team players have advocates as though a mom is the same as a TD or coach for getting a player seen.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 10:55     Subject: National Team U15

Anonymous wrote:

80 players at u14. 30 or less after that.

The 2010 parents (probably Union) that post on DCUM are so oblivious. Good luck in Seattle!


No clue what you're talking about.

For everyone else, here is the Scouting web page from US Soccer:
https://www.ussoccer.com/talent-identification
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 10:34     Subject: National Team U15

Here's how it works...

At u13 when players are first starting GA or ECNL. US Youth National Team (US Soccer) recruiters watch for talent and ask top players to go to regional camps. If they like you you get asked to attend a national camp. After the national camp USYNT rosters are decided on.

Both GA and ECNL (and DPL) have their own talent ID camps at these camps players that DOCs and Coaches select get looked at by US Soccer recruiters. If there's a player they like they get invited to the regional USYNT camp i pointed out above.

Be aware the GA or ECNL Talent ID camp is kind of for USYNT recruiters and kind of a recruitment or retainment tool for coaches and DOCs. If there's a really good player that's moonlighting with another club the DOC can mention that they're being considered for the next Talent ID that's coming up in the future. This keeps them on the team. Talent ID invites can also be thrown in as an incentive when recruiting a new player.

Be double aware that there's also DOCs with their hand out selling Talent ID invites. Sometimes it's not even that overt. If your club does camps for shooting or defense or maybe Futsal. The players that pay for all the extras are the ones that get a Talent ID. This is done to show other parents that paying for the extras has rewards.

If you're on the outside looking in it can be very annoying + just another thing to love about youth soccer. If you're on the inside the likelihood of making the team is incredibly low. US Soccer is known for playing politics and picking players with a story or look over their talent.

At least with the USWNT and USMNT players are able to show off their skills in NWSL or MLS (or whichever pro league) which makes players selected for the roster more defined by playing ability vs anything else.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 10:27     Subject: National Team U15

Anonymous wrote:Club directors/ Tech Directors reach out to the USYNT Scouts and let them know they have some players to take a look at. The scouts try to attend 1 or 2 big events.

Then only 80 players are selected for the camps.
But yes, you have to get in good with your coach/ tech director and or club director and they have to get the Scout's interested (helps if they have a good report) and the team has to play in a good event(usually a tournament and not a regular season game) with the scout present.


80 players at u14. 30 or less after that.

The 2010 parents (probably Union) that post on DCUM are so oblivious. Good luck in Seattle!
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 10:18     Subject: National Team U15

The U16 team is very, very good. My friend’s dd is on it and I fully expect her to be on the USWNT in the future.
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 10:15     Subject: National Team U15

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like it is through connections as much as anything. They are good players but I don’t think it has as much to do about them being seen at an event as it is they have somebody advocating for them. One of those players has parents who both played in college and are connected.


Stop. Most/all players have advocates. Anyone selected for YNT is a great (not good) player.


Stop. Politics/advocacy play as large a role as talent at the younger age groups for YNT selections. Of course none of the kids are bad and they are all good (or better).
Anonymous
Post 06/14/2024 10:05     Subject: National Team U15

Club directors/ Tech Directors reach out to the USYNT Scouts and let them know they have some players to take a look at. The scouts try to attend 1 or 2 big events.

Then only 80 players are selected for the camps.
But yes, you have to get in good with your coach/ tech director and or club director and they have to get the Scout's interested (helps if they have a good report) and the team has to play in a good event(usually a tournament and not a regular season game) with the scout present.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 23:23     Subject: National Team U15

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It seems like it is through connections as much as anything. They are good players but I don’t think it has as much to do about them being seen at an event as it is they have somebody advocating for them. One of those players has parents who both played in college and are connected.


Stop. Most/all players have advocates. Anyone selected for YNT is a great (not good) player.


This. Could there be better unseen players -- sure. But these players are great at this age. Maybe they develop; maybe they do not.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 21:19     Subject: National Team U15

Anonymous wrote:It seems like it is through connections as much as anything. They are good players but I don’t think it has as much to do about them being seen at an event as it is they have somebody advocating for them. One of those players has parents who both played in college and are connected.


Stop. Most/all players have advocates. Anyone selected for YNT is a great (not good) player.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 19:30     Subject: National Team U15

US scouts regularly attend games of good GA and ECNL clubs. In the Fall we had a US team scout at multiple GA regular season games. I also know of a U17 player that is on the national team that was seen at a ODP event. Recommendations from respected coaches also play a role for getting an invite to regional camps. Then it’s about how you perform at those regional camps.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 19:23     Subject: National Team U15

It seems like it is through connections as much as anything. They are good players but I don’t think it has as much to do about them being seen at an event as it is they have somebody advocating for them. One of those players has parents who both played in college and are connected.
Anonymous
Post 06/13/2024 19:11     Subject: National Team U15

I've always wondered where girls are being seen to get invited to the U15/U17 national camp. Does anyone know? I've seen posts from VDA and Brave sending girls to the national camp, but where do they get seen?

Thanks