Anonymous
06/05/2024 12:16
Subject: Re:No Club Has This System
Anonymous wrote:True. My oldest didn’t make a first top mlsnext team until his senior year.
Went on to play pro- D1. The kids that stayed on those first teams in same from club u9-u18— for the most part none of them did anything after HS- only like 1 kid out of them went onto play in college.
It was the kids like mine that had to continually move around for development, continually got shafted and learned grit and to grind and had the benefit of many different coaches, rejections/failures, and come backs that succeeded. It was a pro team scout that ultimately found him—not a HS coach (cut him), not club team coach, etc. Parents that are quiet generally have kids like this—have to fight for everything themselves. Sucks going through it but so much better for them in the long run.
Going through this now with my U13. It sucks and I personally would have quit a while ago and told everyone involved to f off. Kid is mentally stonger than I was so I keep rolling with it until they say they are done.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 12:09
Subject: Re:No Club Has This System
True. My oldest didn’t make a first top mlsnext team until his senior year.
Went on to play pro- D1. The kids that stayed on those first teams in same from club u9-u18— for the most part none of them did anything after HS- only like 1 kid out of them went onto play in college.
It was the kids like mine that had to continually move around for development, continually got shafted and learned grit and to grind and had the benefit of many different coaches, rejections/failures, and come backs that succeeded. It was a pro team scout that ultimately found him—not a HS coach (cut him), not club team coach, etc. Parents that are quiet generally have kids like this—have to fight for everything themselves. Sucks going through it but so much better for them in the long run.
Went on to play pro- D1. The kids that stayed on those first teams in same from club u9-u18— for the most part none of them did anything after HS- only like 1 kid out of them went onto play in college.
It was the kids like mine that had to continually move around for development, continually got shafted and learned grit and to grind and had the benefit of many different coaches, rejections/failures, and come backs that succeeded. It was a pro team scout that ultimately found him—not a HS coach (cut him), not club team coach, etc. Parents that are quiet generally have kids like this—have to fight for everything themselves. Sucks going through it but so much better for them in the long run.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 12:04
Subject: No Club Has This System
Anonymous wrote:No club has a system of players being moved down. If a club has 2-3 teams in the age group, clubs will not move a kid down. Now obviously you have things like chemistry and it is also based on positions, but if you have a tryout or a kid on the 2nd or 3rd team who improved a lot, if the team above has a full roster they won't be added. A shame clubs' administrations don't want to deal with that kind of parent backlash of their kid being moved down.
Which club
Anonymous
06/05/2024 12:04
Subject: No Club Has This System
Anonymous wrote:I have seen kids moved down (cut) to make room for players joining from other clubs. They usually don't turn out to be any better. Most of the time the cut players leave for another club
That’s what happened to us…
Anonymous
06/05/2024 12:02
Subject: No Club Has This System
I do think its difficult for the clubs because families do leave - whether its true or not that their DC deserves to stay at that level.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 11:52
Subject: No Club Has This System
I've seen it both ways by 2 different coaches.
One coach at u11 doesn't seem to move anyone down. You'd think that the kids that only come 30% of the time would get moved down, but that hasn't been the case. Or the kids that are very slow (but big) would be moved down.
Another coach adjusted rosters once moved (3 kids down and 3 kids up) at the start of U10 when a bunch of new kids came in to balance out 2 teams, but the coach was really good about communicating that to the parents. They all stayed and some of those kids will probably move back up when they expand back to U11 9v9.
One coach at u11 doesn't seem to move anyone down. You'd think that the kids that only come 30% of the time would get moved down, but that hasn't been the case. Or the kids that are very slow (but big) would be moved down.
Another coach adjusted rosters once moved (3 kids down and 3 kids up) at the start of U10 when a bunch of new kids came in to balance out 2 teams, but the coach was really good about communicating that to the parents. They all stayed and some of those kids will probably move back up when they expand back to U11 9v9.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 11:49
Subject: No Club Has This System
Anonymous wrote:No club has a system of players being moved down. If a club has 2-3 teams in the age group, clubs will not move a kid down. Now obviously you have things like chemistry and it is also based on positions, but if you have a tryout or a kid on the 2nd or 3rd team who improved a lot, if the team above has a full roster they won't be added. A shame clubs' administrations don't want to deal with that kind of parent backlash of their kid being moved down.
This is just blatantly false and absurd. I know countless examples of this from small clubs to the big ones. To say “no club” is ludicrous.
Now, if you’re talking about during the club year (eg fall 2023-spring 2024), yes, most or maybe even all clubs won’t drop people until the following year.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 11:42
Subject: No Club Has This System
I have seen kids moved down (cut) to make room for players joining from other clubs. They usually don't turn out to be any better. Most of the time the cut players leave for another club
Anonymous
06/05/2024 11:24
Subject: No Club Has This System
My kid got moved down to the B team. Then absolutely tore up the B teams scoring pretty much at will. After a single season the new coach taking over the team begged us to play on the A team again. Same thing happend to 2-3 other players.
The coach that seemed to enjoy demoting players from her team got booted from the club for lack of performance.
The coach that seemed to enjoy demoting players from her team got booted from the club for lack of performance.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 10:54
Subject: No Club Has This System
I have kids at two different clubs, both of which move kids up/down.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 10:54
Subject: No Club Has This System
Anonymous wrote:No club has a system of players being moved down. If a club has 2-3 teams in the age group, clubs will not move a kid down. Now obviously you have things like chemistry and it is also based on positions, but if you have a tryout or a kid on the 2nd or 3rd team who improved a lot, if the team above has a full roster they won't be added. A shame clubs' administrations don't want to deal with that kind of parent backlash of their kid being moved down.
What about returning kids being cut from a team even though lower level teams in the age group existed that they could have been shifted to? Club is holding tryouts for new adds so space was not an issue. Kids cut were well behaved, responsible, and great attendance. No reason for cuts provided. Just cut and being replaced.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 10:50
Subject: No Club Has This System
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No club has a system of players being moved down. If a club has 2-3 teams in the age group, clubs will not move a kid down. Now obviously you have things like chemistry and it is also based on positions, but if you have a tryout or a kid on the 2nd or 3rd team who improved a lot, if the team above has a full roster they won't be added. A shame clubs' administrations don't want to deal with that kind of parent backlash of their kid being moved down.
Our club regularly moves kids down from the top team but more often, the family leaves. So if a club does that, they have to be willing to lose the family completely.
I love that. That's competition. If my son or daughter can't compete with a better player than that's a hard lesson in personal growth, that's how winning is done.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 10:46
Subject: No Club Has This System
Anonymous wrote:No club has a system of players being moved down. If a club has 2-3 teams in the age group, clubs will not move a kid down. Now obviously you have things like chemistry and it is also based on positions, but if you have a tryout or a kid on the 2nd or 3rd team who improved a lot, if the team above has a full roster they won't be added. A shame clubs' administrations don't want to deal with that kind of parent backlash of their kid being moved down.
Our club regularly moves kids down from the top team but more often, the family leaves. So if a club does that, they have to be willing to lose the family completely.
Anonymous
06/05/2024 10:45
Subject: No Club Has This System
Not true. I’ve seen kids getting moved up at our club (girls).
Anonymous
06/05/2024 10:43
Subject: No Club Has This System
No club has a system of players being moved down. If a club has 2-3 teams in the age group, clubs will not move a kid down. Now obviously you have things like chemistry and it is also based on positions, but if you have a tryout or a kid on the 2nd or 3rd team who improved a lot, if the team above has a full roster they won't be added. A shame clubs' administrations don't want to deal with that kind of parent backlash of their kid being moved down.