Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:56
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Most parents don't know soccer well enough to scream directions but of course those are aways the loudest.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:53
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
This is just my opinion, but I think if they are under 18 and/or not getting paid to play soccer, then spectators should keep their criticisms to themselves. Especially to other peoples' kids. Half the time the criticisms aren't even correct. If you think the kids on the team get motivated by it, sure shout some general encouragements or compliments after a good play. Otherwise say it under your breath or not at all.
DC's old team had a dad who was always yelling criticisms at other peoples' kids. It really annoyed the rest of us. Thankfully my DC got moved up and away from it. DC recently practiced with the old team in a combined training session, and the yelling dad's kid got in trouble for yelling at their teammates during practice. Dad was hoping their kid would be moved up for next year and it didn't happen. Probably because the higher team coach doesn't want to deal with the toxic behavior. Great job dad!
DC's old team had a dad who was always yelling criticisms at other peoples' kids. It really annoyed the rest of us. Thankfully my DC got moved up and away from it. DC recently practiced with the old team in a combined training session, and the yelling dad's kid got in trouble for yelling at their teammates during practice. Dad was hoping their kid would be moved up for next year and it didn't happen. Probably because the higher team coach doesn't want to deal with the toxic behavior. Great job dad!
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:45
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At what age should a youth soccer player be mature enough to handle hearing criticism or comments from parents and other spectators on the sidelines during games; comments such as "don't dribble so much into pressure - you keep losing it!" or "you need to get back quicker!" or "take the shot next time!" or "make the pass next time - so-and-so was wide open in the box!" etc.?
On the one hand, there's the "nobody better say anything to my kid" viewpoint -- is that realistic for a 16 year old kid in MLS Next on a pathway to a potential professional soccer career?
On the other hand, there's the "young players need to be able to hear legitimate negative feedback and mature enough to consider or ignore them" -- is that realistic for a 12 year old MLS Next player?
How long should a player stay insulated from the harsh spectator criticism that come from playing at a high level; at what point does insulating them become detrimental rather than beneficial? I'm not talking about insults or derogatory comments -- I'm talking about "coaching from the sidelines" that you hear so many parents and spectators (cousins, siblings, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc.) doing in high level games.
There's a lot of commentary about the youth soccer systems in Europe and South America on this board -- what is their culture of sideline/spectator involvement in high level youth soccer games? Do they insulate their youth players from negative spectator feedback? Do they teach them to ignore it? Is there some cultural differences in sideline culture in youth soccer? What's the right way?
Players are focused on the game, they don’t listen to what spectators are yelling.if your kid is the exception then probably he doesn’t belong to a competitive sport.
This my DD pays me no mind unless im chirping at her when its quiet. Which normally gets me a shut up smirk or death stare. Otherwise im encouraging her to push n play aggressive … be onside etc. 90% of the time she probably tunes me out. As for the team is always encouraging talk for hard hits and hey let em know they can’t hang w u.. loud claps etc….
I also go deep “behind enemy lines” to clap for the forwards…. It makes for some interesting interactions.
Tldr… they aren’t listening to u most of the time so it doesn’t matter lol.
Yup. You're one of the bad ones (in case you were wondering)
Why not stay on your half of the field for one?
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:37
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At what age should a youth soccer player be mature enough to handle hearing criticism or comments from parents and other spectators on the sidelines during games; comments such as "don't dribble so much into pressure - you keep losing it!" or "you need to get back quicker!" or "take the shot next time!" or "make the pass next time - so-and-so was wide open in the box!" etc.?
On the one hand, there's the "nobody better say anything to my kid" viewpoint -- is that realistic for a 16 year old kid in MLS Next on a pathway to a potential professional soccer career?
On the other hand, there's the "young players need to be able to hear legitimate negative feedback and mature enough to consider or ignore them" -- is that realistic for a 12 year old MLS Next player?
How long should a player stay insulated from the harsh spectator criticism that come from playing at a high level; at what point does insulating them become detrimental rather than beneficial? I'm not talking about insults or derogatory comments -- I'm talking about "coaching from the sidelines" that you hear so many parents and spectators (cousins, siblings, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc.) doing in high level games.
There's a lot of commentary about the youth soccer systems in Europe and South America on this board -- what is their culture of sideline/spectator involvement in high level youth soccer games? Do they insulate their youth players from negative spectator feedback? Do they teach them to ignore it? Is there some cultural differences in sideline culture in youth soccer? What's the right way?
Players are focused on the game, they don’t listen to what spectators are yelling.if your kid is the exception then probably he doesn’t belong to a competitive sport.
Yeah, the kids aren't hearing their parents and the other nutjob parents shouting nonsense at close range often repeating the kid's name loudly at nauseum.
When the kid is looking over at the sidelines, they are looking for the ice-cream truck
Do kids notice when I aggressively harass parents who cheer in a way I don't like?
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:35
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At what age should a youth soccer player be mature enough to handle hearing criticism or comments from parents and other spectators on the sidelines during games; comments such as "don't dribble so much into pressure - you keep losing it!" or "you need to get back quicker!" or "take the shot next time!" or "make the pass next time - so-and-so was wide open in the box!" etc.?
On the one hand, there's the "nobody better say anything to my kid" viewpoint -- is that realistic for a 16 year old kid in MLS Next on a pathway to a potential professional soccer career?
On the other hand, there's the "young players need to be able to hear legitimate negative feedback and mature enough to consider or ignore them" -- is that realistic for a 12 year old MLS Next player?
How long should a player stay insulated from the harsh spectator criticism that come from playing at a high level; at what point does insulating them become detrimental rather than beneficial? I'm not talking about insults or derogatory comments -- I'm talking about "coaching from the sidelines" that you hear so many parents and spectators (cousins, siblings, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc.) doing in high level games.
There's a lot of commentary about the youth soccer systems in Europe and South America on this board -- what is their culture of sideline/spectator involvement in high level youth soccer games? Do they insulate their youth players from negative spectator feedback? Do they teach them to ignore it? Is there some cultural differences in sideline culture in youth soccer? What's the right way?
Players are focused on the game, they don’t listen to what spectators are yelling.if your kid is the exception then probably he doesn’t belong to a competitive sport.
This my DD pays me no mind unless im chirping at her when its quiet. Which normally gets me a shut up smirk or death stare. Otherwise im encouraging her to push n play aggressive … be onside etc. 90% of the time she probably tunes me out. As for the team is always encouraging talk for hard hits and hey let em know they can’t hang w u.. loud claps etc….
I also go deep “behind enemy lines” to clap for the forwards…. It makes for some interesting interactions.
Tldr… they aren’t listening to u most of the time so it doesn’t matter lol.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:32
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
The general expectation in our league is no sideline coaching. Parents will certainly yell things like “watch number 12” or “you’ve got Larla open” but no game-time critique. My DD is 11, but I’ve seen the same / heard the same about our league for older ages as well.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:29
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:My husband is a really mild mannered guy but he is vocal at soccer games. 99.9% of the time he talks to our kid (15 DS) and says constructive things such as "Talk to the team!" or "Look for the ____" or "Great job on the ____ - keep it up!" Sometimes it's more specific. I am a little uncomfortable with it but my son is not at all. He sees it as engagement. My husband has complimented other kids, but everyone does that.
I've heard other parents occasionally say things targeting my kid along the same lines - encouraging feedback or a helpful tip. I don't mind.
Unless someone is being inaccurate and mean, deal with it. Sports require some toughness, and being able to accept feedback or at least play through it is a useful skill that teen travel players certain should be developing capacity for.
If your husband isn't the coach, it's not constructive.
It's joysticking
Nothing is wrong with cheering and acknowledging a good action
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:24
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:At what age should a youth soccer player be mature enough to handle hearing criticism or comments from parents and other spectators on the sidelines during games; comments such as "don't dribble so much into pressure - you keep losing it!" or "you need to get back quicker!" or "take the shot next time!" or "make the pass next time - so-and-so was wide open in the box!" etc.?
On the one hand, there's the "nobody better say anything to my kid" viewpoint -- is that realistic for a 16 year old kid in MLS Next on a pathway to a potential professional soccer career?
On the other hand, there's the "young players need to be able to hear legitimate negative feedback and mature enough to consider or ignore them" -- is that realistic for a 12 year old MLS Next player?
How long should a player stay insulated from the harsh spectator criticism that come from playing at a high level; at what point does insulating them become detrimental rather than beneficial? I'm not talking about insults or derogatory comments -- I'm talking about "coaching from the sidelines" that you hear so many parents and spectators (cousins, siblings, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc.) doing in high level games.
There's a lot of commentary about the youth soccer systems in Europe and South America on this board -- what is their culture of sideline/spectator involvement in high level youth soccer games? Do they insulate their youth players from negative spectator feedback? Do they teach them to ignore it? Is there some cultural differences in sideline culture in youth soccer? What's the right way?
Players are focused on the game, they don’t listen to what spectators are yelling.if your kid is the exception then probably he doesn’t belong to a competitive sport.
Yeah, the kids aren't hearing their parents and the other nutjob parents shouting nonsense at close range often repeating the kid's name loudly at nauseum.
When the kid is looking over at the sidelines, they are looking for the ice-cream truck
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:20
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Anonymous wrote:At what age should a youth soccer player be mature enough to handle hearing criticism or comments from parents and other spectators on the sidelines during games; comments such as "don't dribble so much into pressure - you keep losing it!" or "you need to get back quicker!" or "take the shot next time!" or "make the pass next time - so-and-so was wide open in the box!" etc.?
On the one hand, there's the "nobody better say anything to my kid" viewpoint -- is that realistic for a 16 year old kid in MLS Next on a pathway to a potential professional soccer career?
On the other hand, there's the "young players need to be able to hear legitimate negative feedback and mature enough to consider or ignore them" -- is that realistic for a 12 year old MLS Next player?
How long should a player stay insulated from the harsh spectator criticism that come from playing at a high level; at what point does insulating them become detrimental rather than beneficial? I'm not talking about insults or derogatory comments -- I'm talking about "coaching from the sidelines" that you hear so many parents and spectators (cousins, siblings, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc.) doing in high level games.
There's a lot of commentary about the youth soccer systems in Europe and South America on this board -- what is their culture of sideline/spectator involvement in high level youth soccer games? Do they insulate their youth players from negative spectator feedback? Do they teach them to ignore it? Is there some cultural differences in sideline culture in youth soccer? What's the right way?
Players are focused on the game, they don’t listen to what spectators are yelling.if your kid is the exception then probably he doesn’t belong to a competitive sport.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:19
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Kids need to be able to handle it (ie tune it out and ignore it)…the sooner the better, because they will hear it, or over hear it, from the sideline and from teammates.
As for the sideline: I understand if a parent/spectator makes a comment like that to someone else near them on the sideline, but if you are shouting that to a player, you are likely just a loudmouth, d-bag.
As for the sideline: I understand if a parent/spectator makes a comment like that to someone else near them on the sideline, but if you are shouting that to a player, you are likely just a loudmouth, d-bag.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:17
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
My husband is a really mild mannered guy but he is vocal at soccer games. 99.9% of the time he talks to our kid (15 DS) and says constructive things such as "Talk to the team!" or "Look for the ____" or "Great job on the ____ - keep it up!" Sometimes it's more specific. I am a little uncomfortable with it but my son is not at all. He sees it as engagement. My husband has complimented other kids, but everyone does that.
I've heard other parents occasionally say things targeting my kid along the same lines - encouraging feedback or a helpful tip. I don't mind.
Unless someone is being inaccurate and mean, deal with it. Sports require some toughness, and being able to accept feedback or at least play through it is a useful skill that teen travel players certain should be developing capacity for.
I've heard other parents occasionally say things targeting my kid along the same lines - encouraging feedback or a helpful tip. I don't mind.
Unless someone is being inaccurate and mean, deal with it. Sports require some toughness, and being able to accept feedback or at least play through it is a useful skill that teen travel players certain should be developing capacity for.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:10
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
The right way is for the only sideline coaching to come from the actual coach(es).
The issue here is not a player's ability to take criticism, the issue is that parents/grandparents/siblings/whoever need to hush.
The issue here is not a player's ability to take criticism, the issue is that parents/grandparents/siblings/whoever need to hush.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:08
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
They should all shut the hell up!
Let the coach coach and let the kids try to use their own brain for decision making without the joystick leashes.
Parents who actually know the game are quiet
Let the coach coach and let the kids try to use their own brain for decision making without the joystick leashes.
Parents who actually know the game are quiet
Anonymous
06/03/2024 15:03
Subject: Re:Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
Unless you have permission from me or know my kid very well like a former coach or trainer or something...you better not say anything to my kid that might piss me off; otherwise, let's just say that you may be confronted very aggressively. I think it's really that simple....and I don't care what age my kid is or what league he plays in and I think I speak for many parents out there. Me...I would never say ANYTHING to another kid on my kid's team unless it is encouraging. Common sense.
Anonymous
06/03/2024 14:53
Subject: Critiques and criticism from the parents and spectators
At what age should a youth soccer player be mature enough to handle hearing criticism or comments from parents and other spectators on the sidelines during games; comments such as "don't dribble so much into pressure - you keep losing it!" or "you need to get back quicker!" or "take the shot next time!" or "make the pass next time - so-and-so was wide open in the box!" etc.?
On the one hand, there's the "nobody better say anything to my kid" viewpoint -- is that realistic for a 16 year old kid in MLS Next on a pathway to a potential professional soccer career?
On the other hand, there's the "young players need to be able to hear legitimate negative feedback and mature enough to consider or ignore them" -- is that realistic for a 12 year old MLS Next player?
How long should a player stay insulated from the harsh spectator criticism that come from playing at a high level; at what point does insulating them become detrimental rather than beneficial? I'm not talking about insults or derogatory comments -- I'm talking about "coaching from the sidelines" that you hear so many parents and spectators (cousins, siblings, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc.) doing in high level games.
There's a lot of commentary about the youth soccer systems in Europe and South America on this board -- what is their culture of sideline/spectator involvement in high level youth soccer games? Do they insulate their youth players from negative spectator feedback? Do they teach them to ignore it? Is there some cultural differences in sideline culture in youth soccer? What's the right way?
On the one hand, there's the "nobody better say anything to my kid" viewpoint -- is that realistic for a 16 year old kid in MLS Next on a pathway to a potential professional soccer career?
On the other hand, there's the "young players need to be able to hear legitimate negative feedback and mature enough to consider or ignore them" -- is that realistic for a 12 year old MLS Next player?
How long should a player stay insulated from the harsh spectator criticism that come from playing at a high level; at what point does insulating them become detrimental rather than beneficial? I'm not talking about insults or derogatory comments -- I'm talking about "coaching from the sidelines" that you hear so many parents and spectators (cousins, siblings, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc.) doing in high level games.
There's a lot of commentary about the youth soccer systems in Europe and South America on this board -- what is their culture of sideline/spectator involvement in high level youth soccer games? Do they insulate their youth players from negative spectator feedback? Do they teach them to ignore it? Is there some cultural differences in sideline culture in youth soccer? What's the right way?