Thanks for confirming this- with MCPS everything is hidden!

Basically schools with enough kids to fill a enrichment class get one. So if you live near a bunch of kids who are eligible you get the extra curriculum, if not you get left behind. No way a teacher can offer an enrichment curriculum in a room with other kids who really can’t read at all!

Anonymous wrote:OP here- we didn’t get into the CESlottery and supposedly are getting “enrichment in the regular classroom”. I think this means a few higher level texts in class but not much else. Out ES doesn’t pull out the advanced readers.

I think this is where the difference between a ok and top MCPS ES comes in- out school has so many kids behind grade level that’s where all the resources go. For schools where almost all kids are ok track they can actually do enrichment. So this is what you buy when you live in Bethesda/ Potomac. Such is life!

At least they do pull kids out for compacted math.


We have had no luck finding resources for a danced readers anywhere! Any tips welcome.

So at our school (which yes is Bethesda) starting in 4th grade it isn’t pullouts - it’s actual separate classes. They sort the kids into the compacted math and regular tracks, or the enriched literacy versus regular track. The enriched literacy course really was good. I was surprised at how good.

OP here- we didn’t get into the CESlottery and supposedly are getting “enrichment in the regular classroom”. I think this means a few higher level texts in class but not much else. Out ES doesn’t pull out the advanced readers.

I think this is where the difference between a ok and top MCPS ES comes in- out school has so many kids behind grade level that’s where all the resources go. For schools where almost all kids are ok track they can actually do enrichment. So this is what you buy when you live in Bethesda/ Potomac. Such is life!

At least they do pull kids out for compacted math.


We have had no luck finding resources for a danced readers anywhere! Any tips welcome.

Anonymous wrote:I just looked and those are almost exactly the scores my kid had in 3rd grade. Kid went on to compacted math, CES and math middle school magnet. Was at 280 MAP M in 6th grade.

Those scores are good whatever school. Ignore PP who talks of “top math students” bring higher scores.

Those are outstanding scores and should definitely qualify him for compacted math and the advanced reading class that starts in fourth grade (at least at our MoCo school). Unless the grades don’t match. To give context, I have a fourth grader in both programs. Your child’s English score is only a few points behind his, and his was 94th percentile for fourth grade, so your child’s score is likely in the upper 90s percentile-wise for a third grader. The math also is likely somewhere in the mid to upper 90s. My kid had about 240 at the end of third grade and that was 99 point something.

A meeting sounds unusual though - did they say why they wanted to meet? Maybe to apprise you of the options? Is it possible they don’t offer compacted math or enriched English at his school and think he needs a transfer or something?

This post is discussing MAP scores in ES. For those with HS kids, did your HSer take the MAP-R and MAP-M this Spring? Students in 10th and 11th grades were told they will not be tested (9th grade students ARE tested, and 12th grade students are already finished with school). Why are schools testing students currently in 10 and 11th grades? Another miscommunication by MCPS!?

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher at a focus school (close to Title 1 status). For our school, that score would be considered super high. I am surprised the child did not get chosen for HGC. The child will definitely get access to compacted math!

HGS is cancelled. We have CES now, and it's for literacy, not for math. (Math advancement is CM, which is deployed at hone school or CES. Math enrichment does not exist except for little bonus homework puzzles.)

Anonymous wrote:I just looked and those are almost exactly the scores my kid had in 3rd grade. Kid went on to compacted math, CES and math middle school magnet. Was at 280 MAP M in 6th grade.

Those scores are good whatever school. Ignore PP who talks of “top math students” bring higher scores.

Why ignore facts?

Granted, words like "good", "decent", and "top" are fuzzy.

250 is close to 100%ile score, and 230 is on track for CM, as stated twice, and for middle school lottery.

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher at a focus school (close to Title 1 status). For our school, that score would be considered super high. I am surprised the child did not get chosen for HGC. The child will definitely get access to compacted math!

I am sure the kid was on the pool, but didn’t win the lottery.

I am a teacher at a focus school (close to Title 1 status). For our school, that score would be considered super high. I am surprised the child did not get chosen for HGC. The child will definitely get access to compacted math!

I just looked and those are almost exactly the scores my kid had in 3rd grade. Kid went on to compacted math, CES and math middle school magnet. Was at 280 MAP M in 6th grade.

Those scores are good whatever school. Ignore PP who talks of “top math students” bring higher scores.

MAP scores are meant to measure academic growth based on what's learned in school. There are 3 testing cycles- beginning, middle, and end of year to get a baseline and track progress over the year. You should see an increase from the beginning of the year to the end of the year. The scores help teachers identify what kids may need more help in addition to specific content areas kids may need more attention in. The goal for teachers is for kids to be at or above the 50th percentile for each testing cycle. If your kid is 50th or above, they'll just say your kid is on track. Kids in the 90+ percentile might get enrichment depending on the school, but not guaranteed.

Thats a decent score and I would think enough for compacted math.

The top math students will be way above that though (250+)

As for being ignored, once kids get above a certainly level you can't really expect them to learn much in class.

Anonymous wrote:At a meeting we were told our DS got Math 230 and English 227 MAP scores, in the spring 3rd grade testing.

They consider this high but the school is very average (5/10) . Are these considered high in all of MCPS or relatively normal in a higher performing school (Bethesda/Potomac). Trying to understand if our son is getting taught much or if the school is just ignoring him to focus on the kids who are way behind.

Would these scores be enough to be considered for compacted math in 4th grade?

Nationally, your child is scoring in roughly the top 4%-5% for their grade. At a low-FARMS school in Potomac, they would be in the top 10% of their grade. This is fairly high for a school ranked 5/10, but not unheard of..

Anonymous wrote:At a meeting we were told our DS got Math 230 and English 227 MAP scores, in the spring 3rd grade testing.

They consider this high but the school is very average (5/10) . Are these considered high in all of MCPS or relatively normal in a higher performing school (Bethesda/Potomac). Trying to understand if our son is getting taught much or if the school is just ignoring him to focus on the kids who are way behind.

Would these scores be enough to be considered for compacted math in 4th grade?

Did you ask these questions to the teacher or someone in the school? Ask them what the on-grade level score is for the current year Spring examination?

Scores will not tell you if your kid is being ignored.

Read about the default cut scores here, noting the scores may not be lower than the district’s.
https://www.nwea.org/uploads/2022/07/MAP-Growth-Default-Cut-Scores_NWEA_linking-study.pdf

At a meeting we were told our DS got Math 230 and English 227 MAP scores, in the spring 3rd grade testing.

They consider this high but the school is very average (5/10) . Are these considered high in all of MCPS or relatively normal in a higher performing school (Bethesda/Potomac). Trying to understand if our son is getting taught much or if the school is just ignoring him to focus on the kids who are way behind.

Would these scores be enough to be considered for compacted math in 4th grade?