Because until you go through this process with your kid you naively think that you can make sense out of it by comparing stats.

Even if you say they took x APs, it doesn't mean they took the right APs for their major.

Agree with OP, it's kind of silly.

Anonymous wrote:Stats matter.

This is OP. Of course stats matter; that wasn’t my point and I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear in my post. I meant that there are a million other things contributing to whether or not a student gets into a college, and that stats alone don’t provide an accurate representation of students.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people ask about stats so much? It’s been known for years that college admissions is a holistic process and that a kid with a 4.0/1600 can easily be rejected from a school that admits a kid with a 3.6/1450. When are people going to realize that ECs, LORs, awards, essays, interviews, fit, etc. are as, if not much more, important?

Because your premise is wrong. Absent a hook, nothing is more important than GPA/rigor.

That’s been increasingly proven wrong. Obviously below a certain GPA/test score threshold, a student will be automatically rejected. However, beyond that range, these are many thousands of students who AOs need to filter through using the factors mentioned in the original post.

The "stats are insignificant" idea is really drinking the Kool-Aid that, well nothing can be done it's all so arbitrary and holistic, we can't do any research to help us make informed decisions.

Stats are absolutely still relevant. They are not throwing darts. The return of test required should tell you something. Pay attention.

Stats are major parts of the holistic process.

Duh

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people ask about stats so much? It’s been known for years that college admissions is a holistic process and that a kid with a 4.0/1600 can easily be rejected from a school that admits a kid with a 3.6/1450. When are people going to realize that ECs, LORs, awards, essays, interviews, fit, etc. are as, if not much more, important?

It's obvious that you don't look at college common data sets.

You’re wrong. Every tour I’ve been on, every podcast I’ve heard, and every college seminar I’ve attended has said grades matter the most without a hook. You can’t get around a bad GPA without a hook, period.

Because they give an idea of whether your kid might be in the ballpark. Stats are not everything but you do need to be in the ballpark.

Anonymous wrote:Why do people ask about stats so much? It’s been known for years that college admissions is a holistic process and that a kid with a 4.0/1600 can easily be rejected from a school that admits a kid with a 3.6/1450. When are people going to realize that ECs, LORs, awards, essays, interviews, fit, etc. are as, if not much more, important?

+1. It's missed heavily by DCUM that LORs, essays, and ECs are largely what separate kids from the pack. There are so many kids with similar profiles applying for the same majors at the same schools. A 1450 vice a 1550 is not going to be the determining factor. Instead, they blame recruited athletes, URMs, and legacies (aka applicants who stand out from the pack) for why they're not getting in. Be unique and authentic!

^^^ or not!

Stats matter.

Anonymous wrote:Why do people ask about stats so much? It’s been known for years that college admissions is a holistic process and that a kid with a 4.0/1600 can easily be rejected from a school that admits a kid with a 3.6/1450. When are people going to realize that ECs, LORs, awards, essays, interviews, fit, etc. are as, if not much more, important?

I suppose you and your kids don’t have any use for such information. Must be nice to apply to colleges begging for applicants where the number of applications exceeds the number of students those colleges would like to admit.

Anonymous wrote:Why do people ask about stats so much? It’s been known for years that college admissions is a holistic process and that a kid with a 4.0/1600 can easily be rejected from a school that admits a kid with a 3.6/1450. When are people going to realize that ECs, LORs, awards, essays, interviews, fit, etc. are as, if not much more, important?

It's obvious that you don't look at college common data sets.

Anonymous wrote:Why do people ask about stats so much? It’s been known for years that college admissions is a holistic process and that a kid with a 4.0/1600 can easily be rejected from a school that admits a kid with a 3.6/1450. When are people going to realize that ECs, LORs, awards, essays, interviews, fit, etc. are as, if not much more, important?

Because your premise is wrong. Absent a hook, nothing is more important than GPA/rigor.

Why do people ask about stats so much? It’s been known for years that college admissions is a holistic process and that a kid with a 4.0/1600 can easily be rejected from a school that admits a kid with a 3.6/1450. When are people going to realize that ECs, LORs, awards, essays, interviews, fit, etc. are as, if not much more, important?