Anonymous
05/10/2024 10:02
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
Anonymous wrote:My 11 year old DS is reading this. I’m curious about what he’s going to conclude!
Your 11 year old is reading a political advocacy book about the merits of therapy? Why? Are they reading a range of sources with different positions?
Anonymous
05/10/2024 10:00
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
*Kids aren't mentally mature enough...
Anonymous
05/10/2024 09:59
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
If you've been to 3 different pediatricians, you know how much communication style and personality varies and how the affects your kid's responses. With talk therapy, that's a mich bigger issue than basic physical diagnostics and developmental monitoring.
There are many kinds of therapy. I think, especially for kids, skill development like speech therapy and OT is generally more commonly helpful than "Woody Allen movie" style neurosis talk therapy and rumination. IDs aren't mentally mature enough to work through CBT type things. They pick up phrases and patterns from therapy conversations, and parrot them, and then parents take what they say far too seriously.
The mind and body are linked. Sometimes what your minds needs is not to retreat inward and try to abstractly fix itself, but to engage in outward activity that puts your mind at ease.
There are many kinds of therapy. I think, especially for kids, skill development like speech therapy and OT is generally more commonly helpful than "Woody Allen movie" style neurosis talk therapy and rumination. IDs aren't mentally mature enough to work through CBT type things. They pick up phrases and patterns from therapy conversations, and parrot them, and then parents take what they say far too seriously.
The mind and body are linked. Sometimes what your minds needs is not to retreat inward and try to abstractly fix itself, but to engage in outward activity that puts your mind at ease.
Anonymous
05/10/2024 09:42
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
Anonymous wrote:She’s a RWNJ hack pushing propaganda.
Hard pass.
When you label everyone who doesn't agree with you a RWNJ...
It becomes a meaningless floating signifier.
Good work.
Anonymous
05/10/2024 08:20
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
Critical thinking will get you to the same result regarding talk therapy for kids
Talk therapy is highly dependent on someone have life experiences and the ability to apply those experiences and reactions to feelings and emotions and this requires introspection.
Little kids need to be told this is going to get better and this is how to do it and then given explicit steps to do.
Often there is anxiety of not understanding what the therapist is asking so the child is nervous and agrees with the therapist.
If your young child has been to talk therapy or is going, take a pause and deep down is there really any change? casually ask your child if they underdrand the therapists questions. If the child goes to a therapist and doesn’t speak , consider the therapist may have an antagonistic style or uses superfluous wording in questions leaving some kids to not really get what they are being asked and thus feel like they are being tricked so they refuse to answer.
Talk therapy is highly dependent on someone have life experiences and the ability to apply those experiences and reactions to feelings and emotions and this requires introspection.
Little kids need to be told this is going to get better and this is how to do it and then given explicit steps to do.
Often there is anxiety of not understanding what the therapist is asking so the child is nervous and agrees with the therapist.
If your young child has been to talk therapy or is going, take a pause and deep down is there really any change? casually ask your child if they underdrand the therapists questions. If the child goes to a therapist and doesn’t speak , consider the therapist may have an antagonistic style or uses superfluous wording in questions leaving some kids to not really get what they are being asked and thus feel like they are being tricked so they refuse to answer.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 23:35
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
She’s a RWNJ hack pushing propaganda.
Hard pass.
Hard pass.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 23:19
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
Fantastic book
Anonymous
05/09/2024 19:38
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
please tell usAnonymous wrote:My 11 year old DS is reading this. I’m curious about what he’s going to conclude!
Anonymous
05/09/2024 17:23
Subject: Re:Shrier's Bad Therapy
Anonymous wrote:Try this link:
https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Therapy-Kids-Arent-Growing-ebook/dp/B0CBYHTV2D
I mean the thread on dcum.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 12:48
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
My 11 year old DS is reading this. I’m curious about what he’s going to conclude!
Anonymous
05/09/2024 12:41
Subject: Re:Shrier's Bad Therapy
Anonymous
05/09/2024 12:26
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
Anonymous wrote:Just got it on Audible. For those unfamiliar with the book.
https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Therapy-Kids-Arent-Growing/dp/
Articles in NYT and elsewhere re: recent studies have echoed the same themes. There was at least one thread here you may want to look for, OP. Think in last week.
Couldn't find it from searching. Please link
Anonymous
05/09/2024 08:38
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
Just got it on Audible. For those unfamiliar with the book.
https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Therapy-Kids-Arent-Growing/dp/
Articles in NYT and elsewhere re: recent studies have echoed the same themes. There was at least one thread here you may want to look for, OP. Think in last week.
https://www.amazon.com/Bad-Therapy-Kids-Arent-Growing/dp/
Articles in NYT and elsewhere re: recent studies have echoed the same themes. There was at least one thread here you may want to look for, OP. Think in last week.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 08:31
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
Haven’t read but there are certainly good therapists and bad ones like every profession. Also as a parent you have to know when therapy is needed and when it’s ok to just push through.
Anonymous
05/09/2024 01:20
Subject: Shrier's Bad Therapy
I just started reading this book, and for the record I'm in therapy and take medication and have been for decades.
But she makes some excellent points. Things that can heal can also harm, huge uptick in mental health prevalence corresponding to interventions, and lack of questioning why we treat these people as authorities on our kids.
On the other hand, my son had a good experience with talk therapy as a seven year old. It was good for him to have another adult to talk to. But he only had therapy for a few months.
Has anyone read it and can comment?
But she makes some excellent points. Things that can heal can also harm, huge uptick in mental health prevalence corresponding to interventions, and lack of questioning why we treat these people as authorities on our kids.
On the other hand, my son had a good experience with talk therapy as a seven year old. It was good for him to have another adult to talk to. But he only had therapy for a few months.
Has anyone read it and can comment?