Anonymous wrote:I just listened to it too. The brother definitely did it but I do think she was there.

It's funny, I was thinking of DCUM while listening. The culture that they lived in - no college, early and multiple marriages, dead end jobs, unplanned pregnancies. It is so different from the world I grew up in and live in yet is so much more common than my lifestyle. Made me realize what a bubble I am in.
Granted, that is the world's most dysfunctional family. I want to give the brother living in NYC a big hug for getting where he has gotten today.

I'm sorry but the above is such a gross stereotype of less educated people and I can tell that the poster didn't mean it but yuck. Just b/c someone comes from an immigrant family that didn't go to college doesn't make them less virtuous. This family was abusive (physical, verbal and se@#$l) and sociopathic. It has almost nothing to do with college, but is about generational trauma. Hopefully her son doesn't inherit and seems to want to be as far away from all of this as possible.

I just listened to it too. The brother definitely did it but I do think she was there.

It's funny, I was thinking of DCUM while listening. The culture that they lived in - no college, early and multiple marriages, dead end jobs, unplanned pregnancies. It is so different from the world I grew up in and live in yet is so much more common than my lifestyle. Made me realize what a bubble I am in.
Granted, that is the world's most dysfunctional family. I want to give the brother living in NYC a big hug for getting where he has gotten today.

I agree that it's almost impossible that she swung the murder weapon. I think her written "fake" confession was pretty much the truth in so much that she didn't actually watch the murder occur but had to have been present with the brother. He just wasn't rational enough to pull this off without a driver and someone else thinking through next steps like the phone calls looking for her.
The brother didn't know where the mother lived, nor did he know about the stash of cash so she was definitely involved. What's puzzling to me is why she is trying to clear her name. I think she's been lying about this for so long, including to herself, that she might truly believe that she had nothing to do with this when in fact she told him to kill her.

The third son turned out ok because he 1) got away, 2) recognized what was and was not dysfunctional 3) was smart (to get to college and get $$ and 4) was lucky - he barely made it out, slept homeless for years, I mean he was lucky in that worse things did not happen to him to totally derail him.

So who do you think did it and who was involved.

I never thought she swung the actual murder weapon at 6 months pregnant. Maybe it's physically possible but seems unlikely.

So I think the brother did it.

The next question then is - did she 1) inadvertently signal to the murderer that money was there and brother decided independently to murder the woman or 2) did she suggest/facilitate brother murdering her MIL? Genuinely do not know the answer to that question.

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I don’t get how there is a written confession and the cops decide it’s not enough. If she has been exonerated cant she apply for asylum. The whole family is bonkers. How did the one son turnout kind of normal.

So goood. I only listened to season 2

Yes, thanks I meant season 2. It's just so hard to follow the timeline of lies and deportations in the later episodes. Also, she seems to have more in common with her brother than she thinks as she wants to clear her name to her son but doesn't come clean about anything. Lastly, so weird that the police chose her to pursue and not the brother with the blood on his shoes. Nothing about this entire case makes any sense other than it's a story about a family of pathological liars!

Season 2? (I mean to listen to season one when it came out as that case fascinates me but I have never gotten to it)

Anyway, yes, I listened to season 2. I'm kind of gobsmacked out it. I don't know what to think.

The levels of family dysfunction are so crazy, I don't know that there will ever be a truth to be found.

Anyone listen? I won't lead with a spoiler but I have questions... it's so good!!