Ordering on their own, politely, to another person. Sandwich, ice cream, dinner, etc. “May I please have x” “ thank you” when the water gets refilled etc.

Buying groceries off a list you give them in the store by themselves.

OP if you really want to get better at this, I recommend reading Duct Tape Parenting. It talks a lot about closing your mouth and letting your kids be, but she provides a framework for it so it's not just a free for all.

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Anonymous wrote:ES - dressing for the weather and spirit days
MS - driving them anywhere they could walk or bike
HS - course selection (as long as they are on track to graduate)

Nope, kids still need guidance on these things especially course selection.

My kid needed zero help with course selection. Off to her first choice college in the fall.

If she did she knew she couldn't count on you and had to figure it out her own. I'm always amazed at the schedules some kids have and how they are not focusing on the right things and too many fun or fluff classes.

I'm always curious how much people's parents raised them the way they're suggesting kids be raised. Did you parents tell you what courses to take?

I was like PP's kid. My parents never offered guidance on course selection and I didn't ask. That wasn't because I knew I couldn't count on them, but because I knew I could count on myself. I hope my kids are in the same position to trust themselves when the time comes.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ES - dressing for the weather and spirit days
MS - driving them anywhere they could walk or bike
HS - course selection (as long as they are on track to graduate)

Nope, kids still need guidance on these things especially course selection.

My kid needed zero help with course selection. Off to her first choice college in the fall.

If she did she knew she couldn't count on you and had to figure it out her own. I'm always amazed at the schedules some kids have and how they are not focusing on the right things and too many fun or fluff classes.

I'm always curious how much people's parents raised them the way they're suggesting kids be raised. Did you parents tell you what courses to take?

I was like PP's kid. My parents never offered guidance on course selection and I didn't ask. That wasn't because I knew I couldn't count on them, but because I knew I could count on myself. I hope my kids are in the same position to trust themselves when the time comes.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ES - dressing for the weather and spirit days
MS - driving them anywhere they could walk or bike
HS - course selection (as long as they are on track to graduate)

Nope, kids still need guidance on these things especially course selection.

My kid needed zero help with course selection. Off to her first choice college in the fall.

How is that relevant to the thread? Did you post on the wrong one?

PP said kids need help with course selection. I don’t think they do. Did you miss that part?

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Anonymous wrote:ES - dressing for the weather and spirit days
MS - driving them anywhere they could walk or bike
HS - course selection (as long as they are on track to graduate)

Nope, kids still need guidance on these things especially course selection.

My kid needed zero help with course selection. Off to her first choice college in the fall.

How is that relevant to the thread? Did you post on the wrong one?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ES - dressing for the weather and spirit days
MS - driving them anywhere they could walk or bike
HS - course selection (as long as they are on track to graduate)

Nope, kids still need guidance on these things especially course selection.

My kid needed zero help with course selection. Off to her first choice college in the fall.

If she did she knew she couldn't count on you and had to figure it out her own. I'm always amazed at the schedules some kids have and how they are not focusing on the right things and too many fun or fluff classes.

Sure that must have certainly been the case!

This is the same kid who insisted on doing her college apps herself. Absolutely would not let us read her essay.

Not all of us can raise self sufficient kids. It’s ok, PP.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ES - dressing for the weather and spirit days
MS - driving them anywhere they could walk or bike
HS - course selection (as long as they are on track to graduate)

Nope, kids still need guidance on these things especially course selection.

My kid needed zero help with course selection. Off to her first choice college in the fall.

If she did she knew she couldn't count on you and had to figure it out her own. I'm always amazed at the schedules some kids have and how they are not focusing on the right things and too many fun or fluff classes.

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Anonymous wrote:ES - dressing for the weather and spirit days
MS - driving them anywhere they could walk or bike
HS - course selection (as long as they are on track to graduate)

Nope, kids still need guidance on these things especially course selection.

My kid needed zero help with course selection. Off to her first choice college in the fall.

Anonymous wrote:ES - dressing for the weather and spirit days
MS - driving them anywhere they could walk or bike
HS - course selection (as long as they are on track to graduate)

Nope, kids still need guidance on these things especially course selection.

I think they need help but riding a bike. My MS kid has 2 kids that can’t ride a bike. This is something all kids should learn. Along with how to swim and keep yourself afloat.
Without help. Getting up in the morning once they’re mid elementary. I bought my kid an alarm clock and I set it but I don’t go in and get her up. She gets up and dressed and comes down for breakfast by herself, has done since she was about 7.

ES- jumping off the high dive. Some things are meant to be done with peers egging you on.

ES - dressing for the weather and spirit days
MS - driving them anywhere they could walk or bike
HS - course selection (as long as they are on track to graduate)

I want to give some spaces for kids to learn and explore on their own even though they may cry or fail. I think I have been talking and nagging too much about many things on a daily basis. Anything important should I not nag and let them face consequence on their own without warning? I want them to learn how to solve issues by themselves abd learn how to face failure and get back up.

Can you list things important for me to let go in ES, MS & HS years?