Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

Here, verbatim, is what the "research scientist" claimed and which 2 of you plus-oned:

"I bet that the immense majority of people in the world are CULTURALLY affiliated with their religion, but don't actually think deeply about whether they truly believe or not." When asked to back this up with cites, nobody did (or could).

So this thread gives cites from Pew, no less, showing that only a small percentage (under 4% total) attend religious services for the cultural or social aspects.

Explain to us how Pew findings aren't responsive. TIA!

You do realize that many, many people who are “culturally affiliated”, as PP states, do not attend services. I can’t believe you need that explained to you.

Here's an idea: if you make an assertion, provide some stats to back it up. Don't petulantly demand that others prove your points for you.

Stats on attendance at houses of worship do exist, if you could be arsed to look for them.

But if you take a closer look, you'll still be disappointed. According to that very same Pew link, of those who do not attend services, only 28% say that's because they don't believe. 37% say they practice their faith in other ways, and another 37% say they haven't found a house of worship they like. 22% say it's because of logistical reasons like time or being in poor health.

Lesson learned: read the link before making claims you can't be bothered to prove.

Practicing your faith in other ways could be as simple as exchanging Christmas presents or taking your kid to get a picture with a malll Santa. It's not mutually exclusive with PP's read that these people could consider themselves Cultural Christians.

You're very upset but the stats you have provided are not painting the picture you think they are. Only 61% of people who actually attend church say it's to be closer to God, and then of the people who don't attend church who were asked why, 37% chose the multiple choice answer closest to "none of your business." I'm not sure why you're reading this as "everyone really deeply believes the same things I do!"

LOL. Exchanging presents isn't practicing your faith. It's not even practicing the Christian faith. It's ... exchanging presents. Same goes for getting pictures with the mall Santa. Nobody but you thinks this constitutes practicing a faith.

Also, there was no question that said "none of your business." You made that up. You need to take a refresher course in English if you're trying to argue that either "I practice in other ways" or "I haven't found a house of worship I like" are equivalent to "none of your business."

Also, 61% gave the *main* reason as being "closer to God" which was (checks notes) *seven* times bigger than the runner up, "to be a better person," which racked up (checks notes) 8%. You calling this is "only 61%" is kinda laughable. Even better, when the question allowed multiple answers, 94% said becoming closer to God was either very (81%) or somewhat (13%) important to them, and only 4% said it *wasn't* important.

LOL at calling me upset. I'm enjoying this, maybe because it's so easy for me. I know a whole lot about surveys and quantitative methods, and you apparently know eff-all about them. Also you're willing to lie blatantly, but you're so bad at it that it's easy to expose the lies.

I go for the donuts.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

Here, verbatim, is what the "research scientist" claimed and which 2 of you plus-oned:

"I bet that the immense majority of people in the world are CULTURALLY affiliated with their religion, but don't actually think deeply about whether they truly believe or not." When asked to back this up with cites, nobody did (or could).

So this thread gives cites from Pew, no less, showing that only a small percentage (under 4% total) attend religious services for the cultural or social aspects.

Explain to us how Pew findings aren't responsive. TIA!

You do realize that many, many people who are “culturally affiliated”, as PP states, do not attend services. I can’t believe you need that explained to you.

Here's an idea: if you make an assertion, provide some stats to back it up. Don't petulantly demand that others prove your points for you.

Stats on attendance at houses of worship do exist, if you could be arsed to look for them.

But if you take a closer look, you'll still be disappointed. According to that very same Pew link, of those who do not attend services, only 28% say that's because they don't believe. 37% say they practice their faith in other ways, and another 37% say they haven't found a house of worship they like. 22% say it's because of logistical reasons like time or being in poor health.

Lesson learned: read the link before making claims you can't be bothered to prove.

Practicing your faith in other ways could be as simple as exchanging Christmas presents or taking your kid to get a picture with a malll Santa. It's not mutually exclusive with PP's read that these people could consider themselves Cultural Christians.

You're very upset but the stats you have provided are not painting the picture you think they are. Only 61% of people who actually attend church say it's to be closer to God, and then of the people who don't attend church who were asked why, 37% chose the multiple choice answer closest to "none of your business." I'm not sure why you're reading this as "everyone really deeply believes the same things I do!"

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

Why don't you give cites for what you think was claimed. Instead of continuing to make up stuff for which you can provide no actual factual basis.

The floor is open. Your turn!

Culturally affiliated <> people who attend services

Duh.

do you mean =/=?

What are you trying to say?

It seems like ">" might be the symbol pp was going for. But it's not obvious for sure, and the whole post shows a certain innumeracy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

Here, verbatim, is what the "research scientist" claimed and which 2 of you plus-oned:

"I bet that the immense majority of people in the world are CULTURALLY affiliated with their religion, but don't actually think deeply about whether they truly believe or not." When asked to back this up with cites, nobody did (or could).

So this thread gives cites from Pew, no less, showing that only a small percentage (under 4% total) attend religious services for the cultural or social aspects.

Explain to us how Pew findings aren't responsive. TIA!

You do realize that many, many people who are “culturally affiliated”, as PP states, do not attend services. I can’t believe you need that explained to you.

Here's an idea: if you make an assertion, provide some stats to back it up. Don't petulantly demand that others prove your points for you.

Stats on attendance at houses of worship do exist, if you could be arsed to look for them.

But if you take a closer look, you'll still be disappointed. According to that very same Pew link, of those who do not attend services, only 28% say that's because they don't believe. 37% say they practice their faith in other ways, and another 37% say they haven't found a house of worship they like. 22% say it's because of logistical reasons like time or being in poor health.

Lesson learned: read the link before making claims you can't be bothered to prove.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

Why don't you give cites for what you think was claimed. Instead of continuing to make up stuff for which you can provide no actual factual basis.

The floor is open. Your turn!

Culturally affiliated <> people who attend services

Duh.

do you mean =/=?

What are you trying to say?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

Why don't you give cites for what you think was claimed. Instead of continuing to make up stuff for which you can provide no actual factual basis.

The floor is open. Your turn!

Culturally affiliated <> people who attend services

Duh.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

Here, verbatim, is what the "research scientist" claimed and which 2 of you plus-oned:

"I bet that the immense majority of people in the world are CULTURALLY affiliated with their religion, but don't actually think deeply about whether they truly believe or not." When asked to back this up with cites, nobody did (or could).

So this thread gives cites from Pew, no less, showing that only a small percentage (under 4% total) attend religious services for the cultural or social aspects.

Explain to us how Pew findings aren't responsive. TIA!

You do realize that many, many people who are “culturally affiliated”, as PP states, do not attend services. I can’t believe you need that explained to you.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

Why don't you give cites for what you think was claimed. Instead of continuing to make up stuff for which you can provide no actual factual basis.

The floor is open. Your turn!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

Here, verbatim, is what the "research scientist" claimed and which 2 of you plus-oned:

"I bet that the immense majority of people in the world are CULTURALLY affiliated with their religion, but don't actually think deeply about whether they truly believe or not." When asked to back this up with cites, nobody did (or could).

So this thread gives cites from Pew, no less, showing that only a small percentage (under 4% total) attend religious services for the cultural or social aspects.

Explain to us how Pew findings aren't responsive. TIA!

Anonymous wrote:Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

I get that logic and facts must be tough for you, but that wasn’t what anyone claimed.

The comments on the other thread were about people who are culturally affiliated with a certain religion. NOT just the people who attend services regularly.

What % of people affiliated with a religion actually attend services?

Here are some more interesting facts from that Pew survey.

The 81% number was from a question where respondents could choose multiple answers.

When respondents were asked to give the MOST important reason they attend religious services, 61% that was to get closer to God. Everything else was much lower, like the 8% who said it was to be a better person.

A tiny <1% said they attended "to meet new people/socialize." Hardly the "immense majority" claimed by some DCUM atheists.

Bump

Pew says 81% of people who attend religious services go because it's "very important" that "they want to be closer to God." Another 13% said being "closer to God" was "somewhat important" and only 4% said it wasn't important.

So, the people going to churches, synagogues and mosques are not just there "for the community," as DCUM's atheists tell us on the daily, most recently today.

Interestingly, the same Pew research suggests that even most people who *don't* attend church still believe. Among US adults who said they attend church less than a few times a year, just 28% said it's because they don't believe, while 37% said "I practice my faith in other ways" and 23% said "I haven't found a church or house of worship I like."

Pew, beloved of DCUM's atheists, has spoken. Maybe we can put this to rest now?

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2018/08/01/why-americans-go-to-religious-services/