There is nothing surprising about this. Men get a lot more out of the traditional institution of marriage (we know that because they invented it…) and as women out-achieve men in so many areas it doesn’t make sense to marry the bottom 40% of men.

Look ladies, it’s all fun and games to be the “cool aunt” when you are 28 and traveling the world. Everyone looks up to you and they want to be you. Then you turn 43 and you’re still single with no kids and your career has sort of peaked, as well as your looks.

You can’t be a “cool aunt” at 43

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Anonymous wrote:IMO the answer women are giving are how they feel right now, *in the very moment* they are being asked. Most likely because they have been burned/hurt by a recent relationship.

It’s not some immutably principled stand against being partnered. Given enough time, most women will end up in a relationship again. Even the ones who say they loooove being single.

Except the data directly contradicts that, since older women are overwhelmingly choosing to be single, more than any other demographic. And those are the women who know the most what a marriage and partnership with a man will entail

A lack of potential suitors that qualify doesn’t mean they are against being in a relationship, though. That’s just a reaction to the circumstance they find themselves in.

Should the right fella appear, they no longer have such strong feelings about not geting re-partnered. The data shows that silver marriages are booming too.

Anonymous wrote:A lot of single people say it but only half of them actually mean it. People are afraid of others judging them so they say untrue things to save face.

If even half of people are lying that's still a lot more women than men wanting to be single.

All marriages are complex but good ones are worth it.

A lot of single people say it but only half of them actually mean it. People are afraid of others judging them so they say untrue things to save face.

Anonymous wrote:IMO the answer women are giving are how they feel right now, *in the very moment* they are being asked. Most likely because they have been burned/hurt by a recent relationship.

It’s not some immutably principled stand against being partnered. Given enough time, most women will end up in a relationship again. Even the ones who say they loooove being single.

Except the data directly contradicts that, since older women are overwhelmingly choosing to be single, more than any other demographic. And those are the women who know the most what a marriage and partnership with a man will entail

IMO the answer women are giving are how they feel right now, *in the very moment* they are being asked. Most likely because they have been burned/hurt by a recent relationship.

It’s not some immutably principled stand against being partnered. Given enough time, most women will end up in a relationship again. Even the ones who say they loooove being single.

But it’s such a good deal for older single women! You get an older single man and all of his neglected physical and mental health issues to deal with. And probably his grown kids and grandkids as well who will never accept you. So much more appealing than a quiet single life with your career and your own friends and family!!!!! Can’t believe women age 50+ aren’t signing up for this honestly.

Lol that you think self centeredness is a male only phenomenon.

A lot of men are really selfish and self centered, and it's only gotten worse for the younger demographic, with the Andrew Tates and manosphere drones. Women are hearing the way men now openly speak about women online, and realizing that the Disney fairytales are just that... mostly fairytales written by women. And their interest is waning, which is only logical. Women were always the "prizes" in the relationship, which is why men would woo women, buy them rings, etc. Now men expect women to go 50/50 with everything and do hardly any household labor to even it out. Older women speak on this online and younger women listen. It's why the "4B movement" is trending on Tiktok worldwide

Marriage makes sense for women who want to have families, and can have financial benefits if they live in an expensive area where buying a home or raising kids on a single salary might be challenging even if reasonably well paid.

Outside of that, marriage is often not a good deal for women, and a way for them to get tied down to someone who is unlikely to care for them as much as they expect to be cared for BY them, especially as you age.

So for women who doesn't want to or cannot have kids, and is financially stable, the ONLY situation in which a longterm relationship or marriage makes sense is if she meets someone who truly makes her happy and would be a good partner and bring something to the table. But by your late 30s and onward, the number of unmarried men who fit that description is very, very small. The ones who are out there might also have baggage you don't want to deal with (divorced or widowed, potentially children from a previous marriage, demanding jobs that are not conducive to compromise or relationships).

What is the value proposition for them? There really isn't one.

Meanwhile a lot of men in this age group want or even need women to do the stuff women do in relationships all the time -- make the home a nice place to be, maintain social relationships, plan vacations, encourage their partners to go to the doctor and dentist, etc. Women don't need someone to do that stuff. Many men do. It's honestly sad.

We need a new vision for being a man that brings more to the table than sperm and a job. Men need more soft skills that would actually benefit other people.

Anonymous wrote:Does it really need any explanation?

I agree. OP must be a guy.

Does it really need any explanation?

"Single men are far more likely than single women to be looking for a relationship or dates – 61% vs. 38%. This gender gap is especially apparent among older singles"

Interesting development. What do we think is causing this?

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2020/08/PSDT_08.20.20.dating-relationships.full_.report.pdf