Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look into counterstrain - it is a new form of pt that helped me so much with chronic head, neck and jaw pain.

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Here is info on counterstrain. It is really what broke the pain cycle for me.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK562152/

https://counterstrain.com/

Dry needling for neck and shoulder pain. Then strengthening to prevent recurrence.

Thanks. All interesting info.

Interesting to hear all the PT naysayers here. I think it may be self selection -- everyone I've ever known who did PT had good results. They aren't going to work miracles, but the two times I did PT for my bum knee, I saw improvement.

I do think you can get not so great results from just doing PT intensively for a short period of time. One thing that was interesting to me was that when I finally gave in and got my knee replaced, my surgeon was adamant that his very specific PT program be followed that required hourly (yes, hourly) stretches and exercises, but a limited number that were completely patient directed (the PT was not allowed to touch me). My PT said she was a skeptic at first, but said she had never seen a patient of my doctor who followed his protocol have a bad outcome. I think visiting a PT twice a week or whatever is better than nothing for people who won't do the exercises on their own, but I also think the real improvements are made by doing less more often, and can probably be done without the direct oversight of a PT, once you know what you need to do.

PT helped me with chronic tailbone pain. One PT helped things improve quite a bit after several sessions. I think I saw her maybe 10 times? Big improvement but didn't cure me. About a year later, I sought out another PT who I'd heard amazing things about (might have been on this board lol). And indeed, she was amazing. Completely solved my problem. Several years later I sometimes feel some achiness but I know just what to do to calm things down.

Amazing PT is in private practice and doesn't take insurance. Sadly, I think that's the case for almost all ther really good PTs.

PT helped me with hip/back pain. I didn't keep up with the exercises as I should have after I stopped going to the PT, and it came back some.

A new gym that I'm going to seems to be doing the trick as well.

No, useless

Also, I’m the tmj PP. PT hasn’t helped me. What is helping me is reformer Pilates.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look into counterstrain - it is a new form of pt that helped me so much with chronic head, neck and jaw pain.

+1

I have bad tmj, can you pls elaborate more on this/recommend a provider?

Anonymous wrote:Look into counterstrain - it is a new form of pt that helped me so much with chronic head, neck and jaw pain.

+1

Look into counterstrain - it is a new form of pt that helped me so much with chronic head, neck and jaw pain.

Thanks for the feedback. I believe I have shoulder nerve compression issues. I’ve been told thoracic outlet syndrome but who knows.

The only physio that ever had a lasting benefit to my health no longer practices.

For every one that was decent, I saw 10 or more who were utterly shite, a few of whom left me far worse off than I was when I went in for their "help".

Be very specific about your goals, be ready to leave the practice the moment you feel anything about it is suspicious or below standard, and advocate relentlessly for your own health.

PT is a mostly-garbage industry. Most of the "pain docs" are, sadly. Good luck!

Where is the pain you're trying to get rid of?

What has that experience been like for you? What were your issues? Who did you see?

I’ve tried so many other things with no success. Perhaps if I work diligently to get my body into better shape and mobility things might improve.