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Anonymous wrote:OP - my 5th grader was also offered a spot at Loiderman and her home school is Tilden. She’s interested in visual arts. I’m concerned about the academics at Loiderman as well as her making friends.

OP here. I also have a child at Tilden. I am not too impressed by the academics there. They follow standard MCPS curriculum. It’s basic.

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Anonymous wrote:https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/M/1/15/0787/0

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/M/1/15/0232/2023

Both report cards have achievement (% proficient) based on the ethnic groups.

If I am reading these right, % of students proficient in math at Loiederman is 5%. Is not it like Really, really low? Or am I misunderstanding something?

Anonymous wrote:https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/M/1/15/0787/0

https://reportcard.msde.maryland.gov/Graphs/#/ReportCards/ReportCardSchool/1/M/1/15/0232/2023

Both report cards have achievement (% proficient) based on the ethnic groups.

Anonymous wrote:OP - my 5th grader was also offered a spot at Loiderman and her home school is Tilden. She’s interested in visual arts. I’m concerned about the academics at Loiderman as well as her making friends.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different perspective here. DC (Loiederman, grade 6) is in HIGH and in AMP 7+ for math, so there is enrichment/acceleration in the humanities and in math. Math is being taught well: DC is doing better than they did in compacted. HIGH instruction is impressive.

Test scores at Loiederman as a whole reflect the fact that there are many non-native English speakers in the Loiederman population (as an English speaker myself, I cannot imagine having to take a standardized test in a language that my parents didn't speak at home and that I might not speak much outside of school, either). But in terms of my own DC's progress, DC is doing fine.

Arts courses: we have background in this field, and are super impressed with theater and chorus. The teachers are extremely hardworking and make serious progress in just a few months. If you have a DC yourself who is anticipating pursuing the arts in college, yes, you will need extracurriculars and private lessons, but that's true of almost any school. School can introduce, reiterate, or expand a kid's experience with the arts, and Loiederman does all of those.

Yes, theater productions are competitive for entrance and require serious two-part auditions for the musicals (singing and dancing). But the expectations and practice resources are open to everyone. There is also a new initiative this year, an after-school 6th-grade theater group that spent the first half of the year preparing and performing their own separate spoken-word production. Great training ground and preparation for future semesters and years.

Loiederman is not a private performing-arts academy: it is a public middle school open to anyone in MCPS who accesses it through the boundary, choice, and lottery processes. Some of the kids there are dedicated to the arts; others are there just because they didn't want aerospace or computer focuses as you get at Parkland or Argyle. But we find the teachers excellent. We don't think the social anarchy is any worse than any other middle school. We are thrilled that DC is having this variety of arts experiences. And DC is very happy.

Also, does it offer "non-HIGH" for 6th grade social studies?
You mean it is not criteria-based magnet?

NP. What is HIGH?

Anonymous wrote:OP - my 5th grader was also offered a spot at Loiderman and her home school is Tilden. She’s interested in visual arts. I’m concerned about the academics at Loiderman as well as her making friends.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different perspective here. DC (Loiederman, grade 6) is in HIGH and in AMP 7+ for math, so there is enrichment/acceleration in the humanities and in math. Math is being taught well: DC is doing better than they did in compacted. HIGH instruction is impressive.

Test scores at Loiederman as a whole reflect the fact that there are many non-native English speakers in the Loiederman population (as an English speaker myself, I cannot imagine having to take a standardized test in a language that my parents didn't speak at home and that I might not speak much outside of school, either). But in terms of my own DC's progress, DC is doing fine.

Arts courses: we have background in this field, and are super impressed with theater and chorus. The teachers are extremely hardworking and make serious progress in just a few months. If you have a DC yourself who is anticipating pursuing the arts in college, yes, you will need extracurriculars and private lessons, but that's true of almost any school. School can introduce, reiterate, or expand a kid's experience with the arts, and Loiederman does all of those.

Yes, theater productions are competitive for entrance and require serious two-part auditions for the musicals (singing and dancing). But the expectations and practice resources are open to everyone. There is also a new initiative this year, an after-school 6th-grade theater group that spent the first half of the year preparing and performing their own separate spoken-word production. Great training ground and preparation for future semesters and years.

Loiederman is not a private performing-arts academy: it is a public middle school open to anyone in MCPS who accesses it through the boundary, choice, and lottery processes. Some of the kids there are dedicated to the arts; others are there just because they didn't want aerospace or computer focuses as you get at Parkland or Argyle. But we find the teachers excellent. We don't think the social anarchy is any worse than any other middle school. We are thrilled that DC is having this variety of arts experiences. And DC is very happy.

Also, does it offer "non-HIGH" for 6th grade social studies?
You mean it is not criteria-based magnet?

Anonymous wrote:Different perspective here. DC (Loiederman, grade 6) is in HIGH and in AMP 7+ for math, so there is enrichment/acceleration in the humanities and in math. Math is being taught well: DC is doing better than they did in compacted. HIGH instruction is impressive.

Test scores at Loiederman as a whole reflect the fact that there are many non-native English speakers in the Loiederman population (as an English speaker myself, I cannot imagine having to take a standardized test in a language that my parents didn't speak at home and that I might not speak much outside of school, either). But in terms of my own DC's progress, DC is doing fine.

Arts courses: we have background in this field, and are super impressed with theater and chorus. The teachers are extremely hardworking and make serious progress in just a few months. If you have a DC yourself who is anticipating pursuing the arts in college, yes, you will need extracurriculars and private lessons, but that's true of almost any school. School can introduce, reiterate, or expand a kid's experience with the arts, and Loiederman does all of those.

Yes, theater productions are competitive for entrance and require serious two-part auditions for the musicals (singing and dancing). But the expectations and practice resources are open to everyone. There is also a new initiative this year, an after-school 6th-grade theater group that spent the first half of the year preparing and performing their own separate spoken-word production. Great training ground and preparation for future semesters and years.

Loiederman is not a private performing-arts academy: it is a public middle school open to anyone in MCPS who accesses it through the boundary, choice, and lottery processes. Some of the kids there are dedicated to the arts; others are there just because they didn't want aerospace or computer focuses as you get at Parkland or Argyle. But we find the teachers excellent. We don't think the social anarchy is any worse than any other middle school. We are thrilled that DC is having this variety of arts experiences. And DC is very happy.

Anonymous wrote:Different perspective here. DC (Loiederman, grade 6) is in HIGH and in AMP 7+ for math, so there is enrichment/acceleration in the humanities and in math. Math is being taught well: DC is doing better than they did in compacted. HIGH instruction is impressive.

Test scores at Loiederman as a whole reflect the fact that there are many non-native English speakers in the Loiederman population (as an English speaker myself, I cannot imagine having to take a standardized test in a language that my parents didn't speak at home and that I might not speak much outside of school, either). But in terms of my own DC's progress, DC is doing fine.

Arts courses: we have background in this field, and are super impressed with theater and chorus. The teachers are extremely hardworking and make serious progress in just a few months. If you have a DC yourself who is anticipating pursuing the arts in college, yes, you will need extracurriculars and private lessons, but that's true of almost any school. School can introduce, reiterate, or expand a kid's experience with the arts, and Loiederman does all of those.

Yes, theater productions are competitive for entrance and require serious two-part auditions for the musicals (singing and dancing). But the expectations and practice resources are open to everyone. There is also a new initiative this year, an after-school 6th-grade theater group that spent the first half of the year preparing and performing their own separate spoken-word production. Great training ground and preparation for future semesters and years.

Loiederman is not a private performing-arts academy: it is a public middle school open to anyone in MCPS who accesses it through the boundary, choice, and lottery processes. Some of the kids there are dedicated to the arts; others are there just because they didn't want aerospace or computer focuses as you get at Parkland or Argyle. But we find the teachers excellent. We don't think the social anarchy is any worse than any other middle school. We are thrilled that DC is having this variety of arts experiences. And DC is very happy.