Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the legal field, the prestige of your law school is what matters, not undergrad. And going to a fancy undergrad doesn’t give you an admissions boost for law school except maybe on the very edges. It’s all LSAT and GPA. In fact for someone targeting a T14 law school it might be a better strategy to go to a state school for undergrad if you can do better there (less competition).

Everyone gives this advice, but I have never seen anything that supports it...at all. Yale law school is 70% kids from just 20 undergraduate schools (all top schools), and then 30% come from 150+ other schools (i.e., 1 kid from each school).

The #1 feeder to any T14 school by far, is the undergraduate school. So, Harvard undergrad has the most kids at Harvard law, same for Northwestern, same for UVA.

I wish someone could show a link to an analysis or really anything to support the position that law school is only GPA and LSAT.

I don't get this, how does that say anything if we don't know who is actually applying and who is being *accepted* from different schools?

We can quibble about how much T14 matters or not. Sure, it’s easier from T14 but it’s not a long shot from lots and lots of other schools. But you DO need to do well at those. But I think OP was talking about undergrad. Once you are in law school and looking for a job, where you went to undergrad means practically nothing.

I just read a bio of the CEO of T Rowe Price. He went to Towson then got an MBA from Wharton. Despite Wharton being the top business school on Wall Street, he still faced discrimination in finance hiring because of going to Towson.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I will play:

Nursing-absolutely not, same salaries for Ivy or CC trained nurses, same options for NP/PA school(many which are online).

Lawyers--seems this one is the most important to land high paying jobs, though still think being connected(through family or friends) and good social skills come a long way

Medicine-absolutely not, MD/DO the same, i guess if you are a cash pay derm/psych r plastic surgeon and Ivy will get you more customers but charisma. how you do your work and patient referrals do more for you.

Social work--not really-cash pay patients seeing online degree therapists also a thing here, more about your marketing skills than therapy skills.

I’m an equity partner at AMLAW 50. As far as landing a job, undergrad institution matters practically not at all. Law school does to a certain amount. It’s certainly easier to get into big law from the middle third of Harvard law than it is from Maryland School of Law. But plenty of Maryland grads will end up in AMLAW 100 or 200 firms. Almost all these firms have offices all over the country and hire from the local law schools.

That is a massive understatement. Look at the bios on any AMLAW 100 firm and you will see lots of T14 and a few state flagships. Consider how many graduates are being produced by schools outside of either flagships or the T14 relative to how often they appear and you'll see how long the odds are

Anonymous wrote:I will play:

Nursing-absolutely not, same salaries for Ivy or CC trained nurses, same options for NP/PA school(many which are online).

Lawyers--seems this one is the most important to land high paying jobs, though still think being connected(through family or friends) and good social skills come a long way

Medicine-absolutely not, MD/DO the same, i guess if you are a cash pay derm/psych r plastic surgeon and Ivy will get you more customers but charisma. how you do your work and patient referrals do more for you.

Social work--not really-cash pay patients seeing online degree therapists also a thing here, more about your marketing skills than therapy skills.

I’m an equity partner at AMLAW 50. As far as landing a job, undergrad institution matters practically not at all. Law school does to a certain amount. It’s certainly easier to get into big law from the middle third of Harvard law than it is from Maryland School of Law. But plenty of Maryland grads will end up in AMLAW 100 or 200 firms. Almost all these firms have offices all over the country and hire from the local law schools.

Anonymous wrote:In the legal field, the prestige of your law school is what matters, not undergrad. And going to a fancy undergrad doesn’t give you an admissions boost for law school except maybe on the very edges. It’s all LSAT and GPA. In fact for someone targeting a T14 law school it might be a better strategy to go to a state school for undergrad if you can do better there (less competition).

Everyone gives this advice, but I have never seen anything that supports it...at all. Yale law school is 70% kids from just 20 undergraduate schools (all top schools), and then 30% come from 150+ other schools (i.e., 1 kid from each school).

The #1 feeder to any T14 school by far, is the undergraduate school. So, Harvard undergrad has the most kids at Harvard law, same for Northwestern, same for UVA.

I wish someone could show a link to an analysis or really anything to support the position that law school is only GPA and LSAT.

In the legal field, the prestige of your law school is what matters, not undergrad. And going to a fancy undergrad doesn’t give you an admissions boost for law school except maybe on the very edges. It’s all LSAT and GPA. In fact for someone targeting a T14 law school it might be a better strategy to go to a state school for undergrad if you can do better there (less competition).

This doesn't matter really, bc VP's at large corporations come from everywhere, but when someone went to a name brand, people do talk about it... HE went to Duke, SHE went to Harvard

Any field where there are more potential employees than jobs and where image matters more than the quality of the work produced.

Academia
Consulting
Law
Finance

Academia - prestige matters

Teaching - go the cheapest route possible, bc after 15 years, you're making less than most early grads.

MBB Consulting - Bachelor's AND MBA prestige matter

Engineering - Literally any college, get the degree, can you do the work. A kid from Cal Tech can be working alongside UC Irvine .

Anonymous wrote:

Must we keep doing variations of this ridiculous game?

It helps with picking college

Must we keep doing variations of this ridiculous game?

I will play:

Nursing-absolutely not, same salaries for Ivy or CC trained nurses, same options for NP/PA school(many which are online).

Lawyers--seems this one is the most important to land high paying jobs, though still think being connected(through family or friends) and good social skills come a long way

Medicine-absolutely not, MD/DO the same, i guess if you are a cash pay derm/psych r plastic surgeon and Ivy will get you more customers but charisma. how you do your work and patient referrals do more for you.

Social work--not really-cash pay patients seeing online degree therapists also a thing here, more about your marketing skills than therapy skills.