Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 14:22     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Correlation is not causation. Many people (myself included) engaged in IF because they need to lose weight. Overweight and obesity are associated with a high rate of cardiac problems and related deaths as well. So.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 14:07     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

In our household IF is associated with fast food and binge eating. My DH would often not have breakfast or lunch but might grab fast food in the afternoon and then eat a ton of food at dinner time. One thing that would be interested is comparing the actual diets of people on IF to other people. I think being hungry all day is not conducive to eating healthy when you do eat.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 13:58     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Key parts of the article:

“Although the study identified an association between an 8-hour eating window and cardiovascular death, this does not mean that time-restricted eating caused cardiovascular death.”

"The study’s limitations included its reliance on self-reported dietary information, which may be affected by participant’s memory or recall and may not accurately assess typical eating patterns."

"Factors that may also play a role in health, outside of daily duration of eating and cause of death, were not included in the analysis."

"Second, it needs to be emphasized that categorization into the different windows of time-restricted eating was determined on the basis of just two days of dietary intake,”

“It will also be critical to see a comparison of demographics and baseline characteristics across the groups that were classified into the different time-restricted eating windows – for example, was the group with the shortest time-restricted eating window unique compared to people who followed other eating schedules, in terms of weight, stress, traditional cardiometabolic risk factors or other factors associated with adverse cardiovascular outcomes? This additional information will help to better understand the potential independent contribution of the short time-restricted eating pattern reported in this interesting and provocative abstract.”

For those unfamiliar with restrospective studies like this, these are HUGE grains of salt.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 08:23     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Anonymous wrote:Yes, much healthier to eat every hour you’re awake.

…seriously, common sense should’ve given journalists pause before reporting on these ludicrous findings. Note that they haven’t actually been published — or even PRESENTED — yet. What’s being reported on is the press release in advance of the conference presentation. What we do know is that the data are self-reported… a notoriously weak form.


Well yes. Most mammals do eat throughout the day. Snakes may eat once a week but omnivores usually eat frequently rather than occasionally.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 08:21     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Here is the abstract. IF has been promoted as good for improving metabolic health and for being heart healthy. This is a large study that surprisingly shows that it is not heart healthy.

https://www.abstractsonline.com/pp8/#!/20343/presentation/379
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 08:18     Subject: Re:Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Most nutritional studies aren't worth the paper they're written on (or the space taken in the Cloud). So many confounders. The Stat News story is a good one.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 08:11     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Anonymous wrote:Yes, much healthier to eat every hour you’re awake.

…seriously, common sense should’ve given journalists pause before reporting on these ludicrous findings. Note that they haven’t actually been published — or even PRESENTED — yet. What’s being reported on is the press release in advance of the conference presentation. What we do know is that the data are self-reported… a notoriously weak form.


FYI, there is something in between restricted eating and eating every hour.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 08:07     Subject: Re:Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

According to the article, there are no controls for underlying health and differences in the groups with different eating windows. In other words, in a well-controlled prospective study, they have not a clue.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 08:05     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Anonymous wrote:Yes, much healthier to eat every hour you’re awake.

…seriously, common sense should’ve given journalists pause before reporting on these ludicrous findings. Note that they haven’t actually been published — or even PRESENTED — yet. What’s being reported on is the press release in advance of the conference presentation. What we do know is that the data are self-reported… a notoriously weak form.


Yes, the ostrich method is a better standard for reporting. /s
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 01:00     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Yes, much healthier to eat every hour you’re awake.

…seriously, common sense should’ve given journalists pause before reporting on these ludicrous findings. Note that they haven’t actually been published — or even PRESENTED — yet. What’s being reported on is the press release in advance of the conference presentation. What we do know is that the data are self-reported… a notoriously weak form.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 00:47     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

As someone with an eating disorder, I do wonder what the percentage is of people who do IF correctly vs those who use it to mask an ED. The ED portion can certainly be mess up the data.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 00:44     Subject: Re:Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Probably because for a lot of people who do it long term, they are anorexic which puts enormous strain on the heart.
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 00:30     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

It’s a huge study - over 20,000 subjects. Here is the info on the American Heart Association website: https://newsroom.heart.org/news/8-hour-time-restricted-eating-linked-to-a-91-higher-risk-of-cardiovascular-death
Anonymous
Post 03/20/2024 00:03     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death

Anonymous
Post 03/19/2024 21:04     Subject: Intermittent fasting is linked to cardiovascular death