PR or paid shills definitely post here. it’s a bit of stretch to imagine BRF people doing it but who knows.

Some examples

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1135831.page#25102322

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1172303.page

Anonymous wrote:Oh this would be great to learn about! I know so little about it!

I have followed this PR woman for some time and she doesn’t speculate on KateGate but she does give commentary surrounding the PR side, like this. Celebrity PR is not one of my big interests but I find myself watching all her stuff. It’s so educational and interesting.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4hBHnQLdiK/?igsh=NjlqMHByd29nZzNh

I've been following her for years, too. I've learned a lot from her. Sometimes when I big scandal happens, I can't wait to hear Molly's take.

The brf has a very powerful pr team of their own who - no - would not be on dcum but is constantly wheeling and dealing with the British press AND who the brf have used to their own advantage by planting ‘oppo’ against Harry and Megan - or Diana at the time - at salient times as part of their strategy and symbiotic relationship with the press. This tactic is also used by political parties.

Anonymous wrote:No, this isn't something PR firms do. Certainly not a small site like DCUM.

They might monitor FB or X. But they're not on there trolling.

I know of one nonprofit that does have staff post comments on negative (or positive) articles about them, as if they are real people. It's super weird. I wouldn't be surprised if they found DCUM and posted here, too, if anyone said anything about this org.

I also wouldn't be surprised if there's some influencer campaign to try to boost positive news about the royals - or anyone else. But that's def not what is going on in the Kate thread. Those people sound unhinged. They are like the anti Israel posters in the politics forum. You'd almost believe that they belong ot the other camp and are just trying to make the side they are purportedly advocating for look worse to the general public. If their job is to sway public opinion to their cause, they should get a different job.

Anonymous wrote:Yeah, I do think there are people whoa ct like bots and try to control PR and DCUM is not small potatoes. There also are mentally unwell people who need to troll to feed a void.

Social media is wonderful. Look at the power places like Tiktok have over young minds. It is absolutely part of PR and people come on threads to divert things.

Clearly their PR tactics are not high brow so sure there could be people here who aren't just trolls.

The BRF has lost all credibility. They really need to hire a top notch team to earn back even an ounce of trust and make amends. More and more people are going to stop caring where Kate is and speculating and that may be worse for them than they thought. There is a lot of money going toward this family that could go toward real social programs benefiting the underprivileged and those with special needs and the elderly. Give them their privacy and take tax dollar elsewhere.

+1. This is an understatement, and I wish more people were aware of the potential ramifications.

I'm interested in the PR firm called Sunshine Sachs. Does anyone know about them I believe they worked for Harry and Meghan but I think Meg/Harry dropped them or they dropped Harry/Meg. I've heard of them also in relation to Hollywood.

Also curious about firms that specialize in helping clients in a crisis or scandal. I've heard there are firms that just do this. Is that true or is it just another facet of hiring a PR firm?

Who works with politicians? Do many famous people hire PR firms? Companies?

Would love some insider knowledge.

LOL! I doubt there are two of us who tag-team! I’m one individual and I have made such comments 4-5 times. They quickly get buried in a thread that’s 400+ pages. I’m sure there are other individuals who have echoed my sentiments that you all are crazy loons.

I’m curious how many times YOU’VE posted in that thread? Do you think only people who share your opinion should be allowed?

Btw- I used to work in PR. And no that would be a waste of time for a PR professional to get dragged into arguing online. Ha

I’ve worked with crisis intervention PR firms before and none of them did this. Usually they try hard not to feed a story or chatter. They do often have proxies (allies) that push out positive stories in their social media to try to draw attention away or refocus on something positive. So maybe pushing a story about something wonderful Edward/sophie is doing or about Will’s visit to an old age home or something like that.

The stories in spare about the BRF feeding negative stories to the press about lower ranking royals is not something I’ve seen the crisis PR folks here do. So maybe it’s different in England!

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Anonymous wrote:No, this isn't something PR firms do. Certainly not a small site like DCUM.

They might monitor FB or X. But they're not on there trolling.

+1

DCUM is small potatoes (or po-TAH-toes) to KP. Or rather, DCUM is potatoes KP doesn't know and wouldn't care about. That's why I think it's comical that a poster on the main thread is upset that people here may be hurting Kate's feelings.

KP has their hands full with the royal rota and trying to manage public opinion in the U.K., first and foremost. Commonwealth next.

KP PR are likely advocating for greater transparency and authenticity. They know public trust is broken. I think it would be hard to have William and Kate and clients because how do you give them the hard truths? Are they allowed to counsel the royals directly or is their counsel filtered through others (non-PR) who are closer, such as Kate's Private Secretary? To be most effective, the comms person needs to be at the table. Don't know the set-up.

I meant it would be hard to have William and Kate AS clients.

Anonymous wrote:No, this isn't something PR firms do. Certainly not a small site like DCUM.

They might monitor FB or X. But they're not on there trolling.

+1

DCUM is small potatoes (or po-TAH-toes) to KP. Or rather, DCUM is potatoes KP doesn't know and wouldn't care about. That's why I think it's comical that a poster on the main thread is upset that people here may be hurting Kate's feelings.

KP has their hands full with the royal rota and trying to manage public opinion in the U.K., first and foremost. Commonwealth next.

KP PR are likely advocating for greater transparency and authenticity. They know public trust is broken. I think it would be hard to have William and Kate and clients because how do you give them the hard truths? Are they allowed to counsel the royals directly or is their counsel filtered through others (non-PR) who are closer, such as Kate's Private Secretary? To be most effective, the comms person needs to be at the table. Don't know the set-up.

I meant social media is powerful not wonderful.

Yeah, I do think there are people whoa ct like bots and try to control PR and DCUM is not small potatoes. There also are mentally unwell people who need to troll to feed a void.

Social media is wonderful. Look at the power places like Tiktok have over young minds. It is absolutely part of PR and people come on threads to divert things.

Clearly their PR tactics are not high brow so sure there could be people here who aren't just trolls.

The BRF has lost all credibility. They really need to hire a top notch team to earn back even an ounce of trust and make amends. More and more people are going to stop caring where Kate is and speculating and that may be worse for them than they thought. There is a lot of money going toward this family that could go toward real social programs benefiting the underprivileged and those with special needs and the elderly. Give them their privacy and take tax dollar elsewhere.

Oh this would be great to learn about! I know so little about it!

I have followed this PR woman for some time and she doesn’t speculate on KateGate but she does give commentary surrounding the PR side, like this. Celebrity PR is not one of my big interests but I find myself watching all her stuff. It’s so educational and interesting.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4hBHnQLdiK/?igsh=NjlqMHByd29nZzNh

No, this isn't something PR firms do. Certainly not a small site like DCUM.

They might monitor FB or X. But they're not on there trolling.

Wondering this because of the very long thread about Kate's new picture (that I didn't want to hijack). There are what seems to be two posters who tag team and push a particular narrative (generally: you people are vile crazies and this thread needs to die). It doesn't make sense that your average DCUMer would quite so persistent, but there are some oddly persistent posters so maybe I'm wrong! Just wondering whether a serious PR firm would task interns or contractors with trolling message boards to shut things down? I wouldn't have thought so, but I've seen my own firm try to quiet anonymous message board chatter so I thought I would throw the question out to PR insiders. How does damage control work?