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Anonymous wrote: I am not planning to ask for the packet unless my kid doesn't get in. Until then, I don't care.

Same! Why on earth are you bugging AARTs about this now? It's not like you can change what was sent in!

We did it in order to prepare for an appeal.

This, and also to gather information for younger siblings who might be eligible.

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Anonymous wrote: I am not planning to ask for the packet unless my kid doesn't get in. Until then, I don't care.

Same! Why on earth are you bugging AARTs about this now? It's not like you can change what was sent in!

I’ve gotten packets for both of my kids and it’s always provided valuable info. Older child’s packet was created before local norms and completed by a very knowledgeable AART and teacher, DC2’s packet was done after the shift to local norms with a new AART and criteria that the local committee seemed to pull out of thin air. The packets could not have been more different. DC1 sailed through no problems but we had to appeal for DC2. having the packet in hand made it very easy to figure out where school screwed up and what we needed to show. The school sent home work samples that were far superior to what they put in the original packet and I put those in the appeal. I have no idea what they were thinking.

The process has changed a lot in the last 2-3 years and the local school committees are still figuring it out. Advocate as much as you can if you know they need AAP.

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Anonymous wrote: I am not planning to ask for the packet unless my kid doesn't get in. Until then, I don't care.

Same! Why on earth are you bugging AARTs about this now? It's not like you can change what was sent in!

We did it in order to prepare for an appeal.

Anonymous wrote: I am not planning to ask for the packet unless my kid doesn't get in. Until then, I don't care.

Same! Why on earth are you bugging AARTs about this now? It's not like you can change what was sent in!

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Anonymous wrote:HOPE- 3 always, 6 almost always, 2 often.

Cogat 119
Iready ~90%.
Mostly 4's on report card.

IMO kid underperforms potential on the multi-day exams like COGAT and Iready. I think kid just starts clicking buttons to get it over with after the first couple of days as I've noticed a pattern where kid tests best on whatever the first battery is then goes downhill on the subsequent batteries as the week goes on. But given the crappy score, I'm assuming we'll have to appeal with a WISC.

Meh, with that HOPE maybe not.

Unfortunately we're at a competitive school. Kid said they had a series of pullouts to obtain work samples and based on who kid said was also in the pullouts, I think about 40% of the class applied.

Cogat 132, low NNAT, almost all 4s on report card, iReady scores not bad but not great. DD is not a great test-taker and has just started getting higher test scores this year. Winter ireadys were in the high 90th percentiles.

Hope scores- a couple of almost always and rarely and the rest were often and sometimes. Minimal comments added in about reading and math skills. Marked as above on reading, math, and writing.

I was surprised by the low hope scores as DD is very engaged with the teacher, helps others in the classroom when they are struggling with learning, is an eager and fast learner, etc. The scores are almost meaningless without commentary to back them up. I assume she won't get in, but she absolutely loves her current school so that's okay.

Anonymous wrote:HOPE- 3 always, 6 almost always, 2 often.

Cogat 119
Iready ~90%.
Mostly 4's on report card.

IMO kid underperforms potential on the multi-day exams like COGAT and Iready. I think kid just starts clicking buttons to get it over with after the first couple of days as I've noticed a pattern where kid tests best on whatever the first battery is then goes downhill on the subsequent batteries as the week goes on. But given the crappy score, I'm assuming we'll have to appeal with a WISC.

Meh, with that HOPE maybe not.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I am not planning to ask for the packet unless my kid doesn't get in. Until then, I don't care.

I would encourage you to look at the packet. I know that it was the only time were I feel like I understood how the school and my child's Teachers saw him. The comments on the GBRSs were enlightening because they were not canned responses chosen from a menu of options. I don't know if the HOPE scores include comments though so the packet might be less useful because it was the comments that provided insight.

Unfortunately, the HOPE feedback form only includes an OPTIONAL section for comments. Not sure how others fared, but our child's HOPE feedback form included no comments or feedback from the teacher. We have an older child who had a GBRS, which included helpful comments.

I wonder about this! The GBRS seemed to have a lot more room for teachers to provide useful information about kids and the HOPE really seemed to deprecate that in favor of just checking boxes. Given that they (at least used to) have an emphasis on painting a complete picture of a kid, the HOPE scale seems like a step backwards. I of course provided as much info as I could in my parent questionnaire and referral, but I doubt the committee takes those as seriously as they take teacher commentary.

Anonymous wrote: I am not planning to ask for the packet unless my kid doesn't get in. Until then, I don't care.

+1 (without the eye roll because I empathize with wanting to know). Older kids got in without me seeing the packet so I've never looked at one.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: I am not planning to ask for the packet unless my kid doesn't get in. Until then, I don't care.

I would encourage you to look at the packet. I know that it was the only time were I feel like I understood how the school and my child's Teachers saw him. The comments on the GBRSs were enlightening because they were not canned responses chosen from a menu of options. I don't know if the HOPE scores include comments though so the packet might be less useful because it was the comments that provided insight.

Unfortunately, the HOPE feedback form only includes an OPTIONAL section for comments. Not sure how others fared, but our child's HOPE feedback form included no comments or feedback from the teacher. We have an older child who had a GBRS, which included helpful comments.

Anonymous wrote: I am not planning to ask for the packet unless my kid doesn't get in. Until then, I don't care.

I would encourage you to look at the packet. I know that it was the only time were I feel like I understood how the school and my child's Teachers saw him. The comments on the GBRSs were enlightening because they were not canned responses chosen from a menu of options. I don't know if the HOPE scores include comments though so the packet might be less useful because it was the comments that provided insight.

HOPE- 3 always, 6 almost always, 2 often.

Cogat 119
Iready ~90%.
Mostly 4's on report card.

IMO kid underperforms potential on the multi-day exams like COGAT and Iready. I think kid just starts clicking buttons to get it over with after the first couple of days as I've noticed a pattern where kid tests best on whatever the first battery is then goes downhill on the subsequent batteries as the week goes on. But given the crappy score, I'm assuming we'll have to appeal with a WISC.

HOPE was 3 always and 8 almost always

Other data points:
NNAT 150
COGAT Composite 138
iReady 80-90%

I am not planning to ask for the packet unless my kid doesn't get in. Until then, I don't care.

If you received a copy of the packet, I’m curious what the scores look like.

DD received a bunch of sometimes, two often and one almost always. Nothing below sometimes and nothing in always.

Other data points:
NNAT 137
COGAT 143
iReady 98-99th percentile

Nervous about her chances given the ratings.

Anyone else in same or similar boat?