Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 10:39     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids tell me that cheating using the AI feature on Grammarly is rampant. Teachers have all been using Grammarly to help their students edit their work since the editing software on Google docs is so weak, but now Grammarly has added AI. I looked at it and you can give it paragraphs and have it totally rewrite them for you or give it a prompt and have it generate a whole writing piece. Apparently users previously payed for these features, but now they're a part of the basic app.

Why hasn't MCPS blocked it? Assuming they still want kids to learn how to write on their own, shouldn't they at least make school devices clean of AI?


They should block spellchecker too and require everyone to write in cursive! None of these modern tools because that's cheating!


I do think there's a difference between using tools that help you write and using tools that do the writing for you.


So then you should be down with ChatGPT. Since when used correctly it can improve your writing but if you use it to write for you, you will get incoherant nonsense.


Oddly enough, ChatGPT is not advertising itself as "Use this tool, it produces incoherent nonsense!"


Yes, they don't get multibillion-dollar valuations for pointing out its shortcomings but hyping potential that will require decades to manifest.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 10:37     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
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Anonymous wrote:My kids tell me that cheating using the AI feature on Grammarly is rampant. Teachers have all been using Grammarly to help their students edit their work since the editing software on Google docs is so weak, but now Grammarly has added AI. I looked at it and you can give it paragraphs and have it totally rewrite them for you or give it a prompt and have it generate a whole writing piece. Apparently users previously payed for these features, but now they're a part of the basic app.

Why hasn't MCPS blocked it? Assuming they still want kids to learn how to write on their own, shouldn't they at least make school devices clean of AI?


They should block spellchecker too and require everyone to write in cursive! None of these modern tools because that's cheating!


I do think there's a difference between using tools that help you write and using tools that do the writing for you.


So then you should be down with ChatGPT. Since when used correctly it can improve your writing but if you use it to write for you, you will get incoherant nonsense.


Oddly enough, ChatGPT is not advertising itself as "Use this tool, it produces incoherent nonsense!"


You should try using it for anything serious. Half the time it makes up facts that aren't true. It also struggles with anything more than 1-2 paragraphs about a very specific topic.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 09:56     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids tell me that cheating using the AI feature on Grammarly is rampant. Teachers have all been using Grammarly to help their students edit their work since the editing software on Google docs is so weak, but now Grammarly has added AI. I looked at it and you can give it paragraphs and have it totally rewrite them for you or give it a prompt and have it generate a whole writing piece. Apparently users previously payed for these features, but now they're a part of the basic app.

Why hasn't MCPS blocked it? Assuming they still want kids to learn how to write on their own, shouldn't they at least make school devices clean of AI?


They should block spellchecker too and require everyone to write in cursive! None of these modern tools because that's cheating!


I do think there's a difference between using tools that help you write and using tools that do the writing for you.


So then you should be down with ChatGPT. Since when used correctly it can improve your writing but if you use it to write for you, you will get incoherant nonsense.


Oddly enough, ChatGPT is not advertising itself as "Use this tool, it produces incoherent nonsense!"
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 09:45     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids tell me that cheating using the AI feature on Grammarly is rampant. Teachers have all been using Grammarly to help their students edit their work since the editing software on Google docs is so weak, but now Grammarly has added AI. I looked at it and you can give it paragraphs and have it totally rewrite them for you or give it a prompt and have it generate a whole writing piece. Apparently users previously payed for these features, but now they're a part of the basic app.

Why hasn't MCPS blocked it? Assuming they still want kids to learn how to write on their own, shouldn't they at least make school devices clean of AI?


They should block spellchecker too and require everyone to write in cursive! None of these modern tools because that's cheating!


I do think there's a difference between using tools that help you write and using tools that do the writing for you.


So then you should be down with ChatGPT. Since when used correctly it can improve your writing but if you use it to write for you, you will get incoherant nonsense.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 09:44     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
I've also always felt search engines like Google make research too easy. Kids should learn to use the card catalog and all that dated tech to suffer like I did.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 09:44     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My kids tell me that cheating using the AI feature on Grammarly is rampant. Teachers have all been using Grammarly to help their students edit their work since the editing software on Google docs is so weak, but now Grammarly has added AI. I looked at it and you can give it paragraphs and have it totally rewrite them for you or give it a prompt and have it generate a whole writing piece. Apparently users previously payed for these features, but now they're a part of the basic app.

Why hasn't MCPS blocked it? Assuming they still want kids to learn how to write on their own, shouldn't they at least make school devices clean of AI?


They should block spellchecker too and require everyone to write in cursive! None of these modern tools because that's cheating!


I do think there's a difference between using tools that help you write and using tools that do the writing for you.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 09:43     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
Anonymous wrote:I dunno, it's a tool that they will have throughout their working careers. Not sure I see the point in banning it.


BINGO!
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 09:42     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
Anonymous wrote:My kids tell me that cheating using the AI feature on Grammarly is rampant. Teachers have all been using Grammarly to help their students edit their work since the editing software on Google docs is so weak, but now Grammarly has added AI. I looked at it and you can give it paragraphs and have it totally rewrite them for you or give it a prompt and have it generate a whole writing piece. Apparently users previously payed for these features, but now they're a part of the basic app.

Why hasn't MCPS blocked it? Assuming they still want kids to learn how to write on their own, shouldn't they at least make school devices clean of AI?


They should block spellchecker too and require everyone to write in cursive! None of these modern tools because that's cheating!
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 09:07     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I dunno, it's a tool that they will have throughout their working careers. Not sure I see the point in banning it.



If you don't see the problem, that's a problem.

Yeah, people need to know how to validate what the bots are spitting out, understand good writing/info from bad, and train the models.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 09:00     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
Anonymous wrote:I dunno, it's a tool that they will have throughout their working careers. Not sure I see the point in banning it.



If you don't see the problem, that's a problem.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 08:52     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
I dunno, it's a tool that they will have throughout their working careers. Not sure I see the point in banning it.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 08:28     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
The only way to find out if kids can write an essay is to give them an old school blue book and have them write by hand in class.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 08:23     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
You can do whatever you want but students can just use AI on their personal devices anyways. You can’t really put that genie back in the bottle.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 07:39     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
Good luck to them.
Anonymous
Post 03/03/2024 07:36     Subject: Why has MCPS blocked OpenAI for students but not Grammarly? They both have generative AI.
My kids tell me that cheating using the AI feature on Grammarly is rampant. Teachers have all been using Grammarly to help their students edit their work since the editing software on Google docs is so weak, but now Grammarly has added AI. I looked at it and you can give it paragraphs and have it totally rewrite them for you or give it a prompt and have it generate a whole writing piece. Apparently users previously payed for these features, but now they're a part of the basic app.

Why hasn't MCPS blocked it? Assuming they still want kids to learn how to write on their own, shouldn't they at least make school devices clean of AI?