Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 13:56     Subject: Re:It really is CICO…

Yeah, for the most part. Interesting observation from a study:

People were 10% heavier in 2008 than in 1971, despite eating the same calories.


Things like antidepressants, hormones/pesticides in foods, artificial sweeteners and your gut bacteria influence how you lose weight.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1871403X15001210
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 09:48     Subject: It really is CICO…

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I'm a fine-boned 5'4", and have to eat under 900 calories to lose weight, and under 1200 calories to stay at a healthy weight.

The current calorie recommendations for adults are ENTIRELY WRONG for some people. I'm sure they're also wrong at the other extreme - maybe some athletes/high metabolism people need a lot more than the officially recommended amount.

And of course it's calories in, calories out! People just don't know how to count


Me again: also want to point out that calorie counters on exercise machines, etc, are always wrong for me - they tend to overestimate the number of calories I've expended. I don't even look at them anymore.



Truthfully, unless you are an endurance athlete and are on a bike with a power meter (calibrated) for 2+ hours, all of these calorie estimators should be ignored. Even then, which I do often, I don’t really seek to “eat it all back.” I do eat a lot which is important for weight maintenance and injury prevention, but even then, I’m not stressing out about trying to get 2500 extra in the tank on a Saturday after a long workout.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 09:39     Subject: It really is CICO…

Anonymous wrote:
I'm a fine-boned 5'4", and have to eat under 900 calories to lose weight, and under 1200 calories to stay at a healthy weight.

The current calorie recommendations for adults are ENTIRELY WRONG for some people. I'm sure they're also wrong at the other extreme - maybe some athletes/high metabolism people need a lot more than the officially recommended amount.

And of course it's calories in, calories out! People just don't know how to count


Me again: also want to point out that calorie counters on exercise machines, etc, are always wrong for me - they tend to overestimate the number of calories I've expended. I don't even look at them anymore.

Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 09:37     Subject: It really is CICO…


I'm a fine-boned 5'4", and have to eat under 900 calories to lose weight, and under 1200 calories to stay at a healthy weight.

The current calorie recommendations for adults are ENTIRELY WRONG for some people. I'm sure they're also wrong at the other extreme - maybe some athletes/high metabolism people need a lot more than the officially recommended amount.

And of course it's calories in, calories out! People just don't know how to count
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 09:33     Subject: It really is CICO…

Anonymous wrote:Of course it is. But the problem is that the CO side is highly variable.


CI too.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 09:32     Subject: It really is CICO…

Same OP. Not eating really is the only thing that works. “Moderation” is a lie.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 08:08     Subject: It really is CICO…

Anonymous wrote:Of course it is. But the problem is that the CO side is highly variable.


This. And OP’s CO might have been significantly higher, because of what she’s been going through.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 08:07     Subject: It really is CICO…

When I was diagnosed with cancer I went from 137-125 in about a week and a half because of the stress and anxiety. I was hardly eating anything. It was awful. Would not recommend.

Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 08:05     Subject: It really is CICO…

Of course it is. But the problem is that the CO side is highly variable.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 07:59     Subject: It really is CICO…

5’1, highest weight was 146. I have been trying to lose weight for years, exercising and reducing my calories to what I thought was reasonable.

The last several weeks I’ve been under immense pressure at work and have been largely skipping breakfast and eating only a little lunch so I can get my work done. Lo and behold, I’m down to 137. Is this healthy, probably not. Is it working? Apparently. Apparently I have to eat under 1000 calories to lose weight.