Anonymous wrote:DS got into McGill and a UK uni and ended getting cold feet and staying closer to home

Is your son waiting on other news? Toronto is an excellent university, and is better-known worldwide than UMich, which might be a consideration if he wants to work for a multinational corporation or work abroad. Canadian universities don't hand-hold as much as US ones, so that's also something to consider. You also need to consider major compatibility. Is one of them stronger for his major?

Nice way of putting it. Talk to American parents of McGill students. You better be sure your kid is an excellent communicator with highly advanced executive functioning and mature judgment. In other words, no boys!!

McGill is off our list with the tuition super hike, but I think U Toronto and Mich are such great options and different enough that visits will make this decision pretty easy.

Following because my junior is interested in Canadian colleges. Thanks for sharing your stories.

UT at Mississauga has lots of commuter students.

UT at St George (i.e., the main campus downtown) is NOT a commuter school, by contrast. The residential college system works well. There is lots of school spirit. Lack of Division 1 sports would be a bonus in my world, but do what is best for your DC.

I would pick UT (St George) over UMich and McGill, but choose the school which is best fit for your DC.

Also, downtown Toronto in recent years has had a spike in homeless people, some of whom are mentally ill and unsafe to be near, so DC will need to be street smart (which also is true at McGill or in most any large US/Canadian city these days).

Anonymous wrote:Op, The lively Toronto bar scene is available to those 19 & up, if that is of interest to you.

Also, did your kid get accepted into one of the residential colleges at U of Toronto? That can make a pretty big difference in a student’s experience there.

Yes, DS was accepted to Innis College! I don't know much about the residential system but I think it is one of the ones he selected. We have a lot to consider but U of T seems great from what I'm hearing!

Op, The lively Toronto bar scene is available to those 19 & up, if that is of interest to you.

Also, did your kid get accepted into one of the residential colleges at U of Toronto? That can make a pretty big difference in a student’s experience there.

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By no sports, I mean no varsity sports that students go to cheer/watch...there is club and intramural sports.

The Toronto Blues are a well loved institution (U of T hockey team).

But yeah, you're not going to get anything like the 10s of thousands of Michigan fans filling that massive football stadium.

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Anonymous wrote:DS accepted into McGill yesterday and U of T today (and offered 100K scholarship? Is that normal??). He also got into UMich so it is going to be a tough call. However U of T is much cheaper and arguably the best university in Canada. Anyone else looking at Canada options hear back yet or strongly considering it?

Canadian colleges are excellent, but you won't get the university experience like you will at Michigan. No sports, lots of commuter students (at least at Toronto), etc.

Toronto is excellent for CS and particularly well-known for AI. Google's AI group is all University of Toronto, one of the Open AI founders actually created foundational research in AI, etc.

By no sports, I mean no varsity sports that students go to cheer/watch...there is club and intramural sports.

Anonymous wrote:DS accepted into McGill yesterday and U of T today (and offered 100K scholarship? Is that normal??). He also got into UMich so it is going to be a tough call. However U of T is much cheaper and arguably the best university in Canada. Anyone else looking at Canada options hear back yet or strongly considering it?

Canadian colleges are excellent, but you won't get the university experience like you will at Michigan. No sports, lots of commuter students (at least at Toronto), etc.

Toronto is excellent for CS and particularly well-known for AI. Google's AI group is all University of Toronto, one of the Open AI founders actually created foundational research in AI, etc.

Congrats! If it is going to save money, I see no downside.

We were looking at some 2 year performing arts programs up there (affiliated with the equivalent of community colleges), but my kiddo decided not to apply at this time. Might still be on the table if she doesn’t go straight to a 4 year.

Congrats to your kid too!

Anonymous wrote:DS got into McGill and a UK uni and ended getting cold feet and staying closer to home

Is your son waiting on other news? Toronto is an excellent university, and is better-known worldwide than UMich, which might be a consideration if he wants to work for a multinational corporation or work abroad. Canadian universities don't hand-hold as much as US ones, so that's also something to consider. You also need to consider major compatibility. Is one of them stronger for his major?

He got accepted to CS at U of T but denied for CS at UMich. He is considering data science there. We're still waiting to hear back from some more RD schools (Cornell, Rice, Northwestern) but he definitely has some tough choices ahead of him

^ and congratulations!

DS got into McGill and a UK uni and ended getting cold feet and staying closer to home

Is your son waiting on other news? Toronto is an excellent university, and is better-known worldwide than UMich, which might be a consideration if he wants to work for a multinational corporation or work abroad. Canadian universities don't hand-hold as much as US ones, so that's also something to consider. You also need to consider major compatibility. Is one of them stronger for his major?

DS accepted into McGill yesterday and U of T today (and offered 100K scholarship? Is that normal??). He also got into UMich so it is going to be a tough call. However U of T is much cheaper and arguably the best university in Canada. Anyone else looking at Canada options hear back yet or strongly considering it?