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Anonymous wrote:Or attend one of the many, many schools that remain test optional.

Not for too much longer. I expect Emory, Vandy, Duke to follow suite by next year or so.

That’s interesting that you named the schools who accept the most students test optional. I think it’s working for them, especially Vanderbilt.

This isn't shocking. From what I've heard, the professors are elite colleges are revolting behind the scenes. The level of talent admissions has brought in since test-optional took off has been substantially worse than before. Kids are going into the Ivies not being able to do difficult readings or write essays. Kids are going in with a weak grasp of algebra. Tests filter these sorts of students out.

Anonymous wrote:Michigan has same policy.

They don’t require AP scores

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Anonymous wrote:Yea I like this, best of both worlds

I think this kind of test flexible policy is going to take off. Lets the schools keep lower scores out of their profile while still ensuring that the kids they enroll are academically qualified.

+1, it gives students options as well. The ACT and AP exams were difficult for me but the SAT seemed to be the best format with my highest score. It allows students to see which teat they're good at.

Anonymous wrote:The worst part was that kids felt they needed to get a 1500 to be competitive anywhere.

Agree. The true range has become a mystery.

Anonymous wrote:Yea I like this, best of both worlds

I think this kind of test flexible policy is going to take off. Lets the schools keep lower scores out of their profile while still ensuring that the kids they enroll are academically qualified.

The worst part was that kids felt they needed to get a 1500 to be competitive anywhere.

So glad to see test optional mania starting to ebb. It made sense during the early times of covid but not beyond that emergency. As the article states, test scores were predictive of success at Yale and test scores help kids coming from disadvantaged backgrounds. Only rich kids with paid for diagnoses benefit from test optional.

I prefer the term "test fluid"

One girl got into usc with a 23 ACT, Validictorian. Give it a few years that will end soon.

Anonymous wrote:I say make the kids submit all their test scores, like Georgetown does. Do away with superscoring. Colleges can elect to consider whatever they like, but at least they have an accurate full picture.

To superscore, you have to submit more than one test.

I say make the kids submit all their test scores, like Georgetown does. Do away with superscoring. Colleges can elect to consider whatever they like, but at least they have an accurate full picture.

Michigan has same policy.

Yea I like this, best of both worlds

Seems to be an ideal outcome. Require testing, but it can be AP or IB scores.