Anonymous
02/13/2024 21:02
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Any boys ECNL club would join MLS next if they could.
Any Girls GA club would join the ECNL if they could.
This is a fact. Respected clubs and talented players want to go where the best competition and highest level of achievement is.
What would happen if NWSL created NWSL Next?
NWSL has 14 teams less than half what the MLS has. Multiple NWSL “academy” clubs are already playing in the ECNL. To mixed results. While the number of direct from club NWSL players has increased its still a “from” college draft and invite league.
Financials are very different for NWSL teams than MLS. VERY different. 18 months ago the league and multiple teams were very concerned with finances from the loss of their single albeit largest sponsor.
The chances of the NWSL investing in true academies is slim. The chances of them doing so by joining in one way or another a quickly diminishing 2nd league even less so. And why would they want to spend money when the ECNL has already given them everything they need.
The ECNL is the pipeline for College, NWSL, Natl. team invites etc…. You can certainly get there taking other routes but the most consistent route is the ECNL. Facts are facts even if you don’t want to hear them. My grandpa always said if you have your head in the sand, it’s your a** that’s showing.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 19:45
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Boys side of ECNL will never collapse. MLS Next is important but ECNL Boys will never collapse because there 3x the amount of boys than girls who want to play in a "elite league" and are willing to dish out the money to feel like it. The reality is, not many boys are getting recruited out of US to play D1 anyways, so basically any boys "elite" league will probably be fine.
Truth there. Look at West Virginia (they're localish), they lost in the semi finals most of their roster is filled with international players: Australia, Japan, England, Finland, Spain, Germany - the list goes on.
And there are a lot of ECNL boys teams/clubs with interest in joining mls next
If only having interest was enough for acceptance
Anonymous
02/13/2024 19:44
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
ECNL is consolidating the the top GA clubs now and probably keep adding the top GA clubs the next few years until there are no more GA clubs who can compete with ECNL.
It will then be parents deciding if their daughter should be on a club's top team, GA or a club's 2nd team, ECRL.
It will then be parents deciding if their daughter should be on a club's top team, GA or a club's 2nd team, ECRL.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 19:43
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
ECNL is consolidating the the top GA clubs now and probably keep adding the top GA clubs the next few years until there are no more GA clubs who can compete with ECNL.
It will then be parents deciding if their daughter should be on a club's top team, GA or a club's 2nd team, ECRL.
It will then be parents deciding if their daughter should be on a club's top team, GA or a club's 2nd team, ECRL.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 19:31
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Anonymous wrote:Any boys ECNL club would join MLS next if they could.
Any Girls GA club would join the ECNL if they could.
This is a fact. Respected clubs and talented players want to go where the best competition and highest level of achievement is.
What would happen if NWSL created NWSL Next?
Anonymous
02/13/2024 19:20
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Any boys ECNL club would join MLS next if they could.
Any Girls GA club would join the ECNL if they could.
This is a fact. Respected clubs and talented players want to go where the best competition and highest level of achievement is.
Any Girls GA club would join the ECNL if they could.
This is a fact. Respected clubs and talented players want to go where the best competition and highest level of achievement is.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 18:01
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Boys side of ECNL will never collapse. MLS Next is important but ECNL Boys will never collapse because there 3x the amount of boys than girls who want to play in a "elite league" and are willing to dish out the money to feel like it. The reality is, not many boys are getting recruited out of US to play D1 anyways, so basically any boys "elite" league will probably be fine.
Truth there. Look at West Virginia (they're localish), they lost in the semi finals most of their roster is filled with international players: Australia, Japan, England, Finland, Spain, Germany - the list goes on.
And there are a lot of ECNL boys teams/clubs with interest in joining mls next
Anonymous
02/13/2024 17:46
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Anonymous wrote:Boys side of ECNL will never collapse. MLS Next is important but ECNL Boys will never collapse because there 3x the amount of boys than girls who want to play in a "elite league" and are willing to dish out the money to feel like it. The reality is, not many boys are getting recruited out of US to play D1 anyways, so basically any boys "elite" league will probably be fine.
Truth there. Look at West Virginia (they're localish), they lost in the semi finals most of their roster is filled with international players: Australia, Japan, England, Finland, Spain, Germany - the list goes on.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 17:38
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Boys side of ECNL will never collapse. MLS Next is important but ECNL Boys will never collapse because there 3x the amount of boys than girls who want to play in a "elite league" and are willing to dish out the money to feel like it. The reality is, not many boys are getting recruited out of US to play D1 anyways, so basically any boys "elite" league will probably be fine.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 17:27
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Sorry but that is silly. What should have happened is the clubs left without a league should have just dropped back to their local regional leagues, like EDP. GA was just a marketing hook to con players and parents that they are elite. You could have been elite in the top local league or USYS National League.
Let me tell you a little secrete, if GA didn't exist, college coaches would travel to USYS events like the Nationals. Coaches go where the talent is.
Upon inception it wasn't a con but it was certainly a life boat to kids got caught out in the cold.
I'm not saying there wasn't an attempt to make money and GA certainly tried to grow beyond its means and scope but the league bailed out a lot of kids.
I think GA has served it's purpose and its' time has now passed.
Wait for the boys side of ECNL to collapse. Fireworks from there!
Anonymous
02/13/2024 17:20
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Anonymous wrote:Sorry but that is silly. What should have happened is the clubs left without a league should have just dropped back to their local regional leagues, like EDP. GA was just a marketing hook to con players and parents that they are elite. You could have been elite in the top local league or USYS National League.
Let me tell you a little secrete, if GA didn't exist, college coaches would travel to USYS events like the Nationals. Coaches go where the talent is.
Upon inception it wasn't a con but it was certainly a life boat to kids got caught out in the cold.
I'm not saying there wasn't an attempt to make money and GA certainly tried to grow beyond its means and scope but the league bailed out a lot of kids.
I think GA has served it's purpose and its' time has now passed.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 17:16
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Anonymous wrote:There has been a lot of sniping on the forum the last couple of weeks regarding the future of Ga and ECNL.
Today's news of Ukies, Nationals and Colorado Rush leaving GA for ECNL, no matter how GA backers want to spin it, is not good news for GA.
That said, I want to say a few kind words for GA and give GA a big thanks.
When US Soccer pulled the plug on both boys and girls DA, during Covid no less, everyone was left in a lurch. ECNL had already accepted some clubs back and in light of the extenuating circumstances they let a couple more former DA clubs back into ECNL.
But that still left 1000's of players with a very uncertain future as they were just realizing their dreams of playing and being recruited for college. In short order, club directors got to work and in warp speed created a league and a showcasing environment to keep those kids dreams on track. Now, of course there was money to be made but that didn't matter to the kids.
So, while GA may certainly be slipping in status, it served an important purpose to a great number of kids who have GA and their club leaders to thank for making sure they had a competitive environment to continue their pursuit.
While I believe GA is going to fall off lets thank GA for being there when kids needed it the most.
Nothing to say about the scary ecnl clubs who refuse to let certain teams in lol
Anonymous
02/13/2024 17:15
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Anonymous wrote:Sorry but that is silly. What should have happened is the clubs left without a league should have just dropped back to their local regional leagues, like EDP. GA was just a marketing hook to con players and parents that they are elite. You could have been elite in the top local league or USYS National League.
Let me tell you a little secrete, if GA didn't exist, college coaches would travel to USYS events like the Nationals. Coaches go where the talent is.
And you think USYS wasn't approached by the GA clubs?
Anonymous
02/13/2024 17:06
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
Sorry but that is silly. What should have happened is the clubs left without a league should have just dropped back to their local regional leagues, like EDP. GA was just a marketing hook to con players and parents that they are elite. You could have been elite in the top local league or USYS National League.
Let me tell you a little secrete, if GA didn't exist, college coaches would travel to USYS events like the Nationals. Coaches go where the talent is.
Let me tell you a little secrete, if GA didn't exist, college coaches would travel to USYS events like the Nationals. Coaches go where the talent is.
Anonymous
02/13/2024 16:58
Subject: Thank you Girls Academy
There has been a lot of sniping on the forum the last couple of weeks regarding the future of Ga and ECNL.
Today's news of Ukies, Nationals and Colorado Rush leaving GA for ECNL, no matter how GA backers want to spin it, is not good news for GA.
That said, I want to say a few kind words for GA and give GA a big thanks.
When US Soccer pulled the plug on both boys and girls DA, during Covid no less, everyone was left in a lurch. ECNL had already accepted some clubs back and in light of the extenuating circumstances they let a couple more former DA clubs back into ECNL.
But that still left 1000's of players with a very uncertain future as they were just realizing their dreams of playing and being recruited for college. In short order, club directors got to work and in warp speed created a league and a showcasing environment to keep those kids dreams on track. Now, of course there was money to be made but that didn't matter to the kids.
So, while GA may certainly be slipping in status, it served an important purpose to a great number of kids who have GA and their club leaders to thank for making sure they had a competitive environment to continue their pursuit.
While I believe GA is going to fall off lets thank GA for being there when kids needed it the most.
Today's news of Ukies, Nationals and Colorado Rush leaving GA for ECNL, no matter how GA backers want to spin it, is not good news for GA.
That said, I want to say a few kind words for GA and give GA a big thanks.
When US Soccer pulled the plug on both boys and girls DA, during Covid no less, everyone was left in a lurch. ECNL had already accepted some clubs back and in light of the extenuating circumstances they let a couple more former DA clubs back into ECNL.
But that still left 1000's of players with a very uncertain future as they were just realizing their dreams of playing and being recruited for college. In short order, club directors got to work and in warp speed created a league and a showcasing environment to keep those kids dreams on track. Now, of course there was money to be made but that didn't matter to the kids.
So, while GA may certainly be slipping in status, it served an important purpose to a great number of kids who have GA and their club leaders to thank for making sure they had a competitive environment to continue their pursuit.
While I believe GA is going to fall off lets thank GA for being there when kids needed it the most.