Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 15:32     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I could understand the motivation of those up for reelection, but this just seems like a mega-troll effort
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-co-sponsors-bill-to-codify-roe-v-wade/ar-BB1idvut?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3a51cf86a57548e09f4201a6d5f9a84e&ei=48
"Sen. Joe Manchin (D) of West Virginia has co-sponsored what his office called in a press release a “bipartisan effort to codify Roe v. Wade.”

This comes after the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health ruling in June of 2022, which effectively overturned Roe v. Wade"



What a ridiculous thought, OP! Just because a Senator is not running for office doesn't mean that he/she no longer has issues they care about. They aren't dead AND they are still in office and they should be speaking up about the travesty of the misogynistic Supreme Court and Trump's GOP.

Did you miss the part where Manchin already voted against codifying Roe and where Collins rubber stamped any old misogynist Trump asked for? I guess you missed that. Maybe they should start caring about women before their actions have the effect of ruining the lives of millions.

Manchin is a sucky troll.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 15:27     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:I could understand the motivation of those up for reelection, but this just seems like a mega-troll effort
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-co-sponsors-bill-to-codify-roe-v-wade/ar-BB1idvut?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3a51cf86a57548e09f4201a6d5f9a84e&ei=48
"Sen. Joe Manchin (D) of West Virginia has co-sponsored what his office called in a press release a “bipartisan effort to codify Roe v. Wade.”

This comes after the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health ruling in June of 2022, which effectively overturned Roe v. Wade"

Looks like Manchin might be positioning to be the No Label candidate. I don't see him, Collins and Murkoski wanting to put any GOP in an uncomfortable position. And Joe and Susan aren't supporters of women.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 14:36     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:I could understand the motivation of those up for reelection, but this just seems like a mega-troll effort
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-co-sponsors-bill-to-codify-roe-v-wade/ar-BB1idvut?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3a51cf86a57548e09f4201a6d5f9a84e&ei=48
"Sen. Joe Manchin (D) of West Virginia has co-sponsored what his office called in a press release a “bipartisan effort to codify Roe v. Wade.”

This comes after the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health ruling in June of 2022, which effectively overturned Roe v. Wade"



What a ridiculous thought, OP! Just because a Senator is not running for office doesn't mean that he/she no longer has issues they care about. They aren't dead AND they are still in office and they should be speaking up about the travesty of the misogynistic Supreme Court and Trump's GOP.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 14:18     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is that trolling?!


because they voted against lifting the filibuster hold that would have codified it pre Dobbs. Now they will need 60 votes, and there just won't be anywhere close to that from the right.

And it would have passed the House then and now it won’t even come to the floor.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 14:16     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is that trolling?!


because they voted against lifting the filibuster hold that would have codified it pre Dobbs. Now they will need 60 votes, and there just won't be anywhere close to that from the right.


Yes, but it forces all of the GOP Senators to be on the record that the voted against the bill. With elections in November, this is going to be a costly bill for the GOP to respond to. In every election since RvW was overturned, there has been record turnout and record voting against abortion restrictions. If GOP Senators have to go on record vetoing an abortion rights bill, you can bet that every one of them standing for reelection are going to have this become a major election issue for their opponents. And the record is not good for any candidate that rejects abortion rights. Even soundly right states like Kansas, Ohio, and Kentucky have voted for abortion rights and candidates that had to oppose abortion rights lost in those elections. Same in purple Virginia. In fact, the vote in Virginia essentially sunk Glenn Youngkin's explorations into a potential presidential run.

In general the American public is 58-62% behind abortion rights depending on how conservative the area is. But solidly pro-choice. And when candidates have to defend a anti-choice position, they lose.


I forgot to add, but the bill may be hopeless, but this is a good move to help return control of both Chambers of Congress blue. Even if Trump were somehow miraculously to win the election, he would be hampered by having both chambers controlled by the Democrats.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 14:15     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is that trolling?!


because they voted against lifting the filibuster hold that would have codified it pre Dobbs. Now they will need 60 votes, and there just won't be anywhere close to that from the right.


Yes, but it forces all of the GOP Senators to be on the record that the voted against the bill. With elections in November, this is going to be a costly bill for the GOP to respond to. In every election since RvW was overturned, there has been record turnout and record voting against abortion restrictions. If GOP Senators have to go on record vetoing an abortion rights bill, you can bet that every one of them standing for reelection are going to have this become a major election issue for their opponents. And the record is not good for any candidate that rejects abortion rights. Even soundly right states like Kansas, Ohio, and Kentucky have voted for abortion rights and candidates that had to oppose abortion rights lost in those elections. Same in purple Virginia. In fact, the vote in Virginia essentially sunk Glenn Youngkin's explorations into a potential presidential run.

In general the American public is 58-62% behind abortion rights depending on how conservative the area is. But solidly pro-choice. And when candidates have to defend a anti-choice position, they lose.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 14:06     Subject: Re:Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Here's Manchin in 2022 voting against codifying RvW https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/joe-manchin-vote-against-codify-roe-wade-senate
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 14:04     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Collins especially probably feels the hot fires of hell licking at her feet for her “I think he’s learned his lesson” statement.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 14:02     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How is that trolling?!


because they voted against lifting the filibuster hold that would have codified it pre Dobbs. Now they will need 60 votes, and there just won't be anywhere close to that from the right.


What does that mean? Did they support it before or vote no?
Was there a vote to eliminate the filibuster from the Senate, or are you talking about a cloture vote?
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 13:46     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:I think that’s great!


It's great, but it is a waste of time because the GOP in the Senate won't support its passage and Moses Johnson would never bring it to the House floor.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 13:45     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
I think that’s great!
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 13:15     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:How is that trolling?!


because they voted against lifting the filibuster hold that would have codified it pre Dobbs. Now they will need 60 votes, and there just won't be anywhere close to that from the right.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 13:14     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
Anonymous wrote:I could understand the motivation of those up for reelection, but this just seems like a mega-troll effort
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-co-sponsors-bill-to-codify-roe-v-wade/ar-BB1idvut?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3a51cf86a57548e09f4201a6d5f9a84e&ei=48
"Sen. Joe Manchin (D) of West Virginia has co-sponsored what his office called in a press release a “bipartisan effort to codify Roe v. Wade.”

This comes after the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health ruling in June of 2022, which effectively overturned Roe v. Wade"



That’s not trolling - that legislating the will of the vast majority of people.
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 13:09     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
How is that trolling?!
Anonymous
Post 02/13/2024 13:02     Subject: Manchin, Collins and Murkowski trolling with a Roe V Wade bill. For real.
I could understand the motivation of those up for reelection, but this just seems like a mega-troll effort
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/manchin-co-sponsors-bill-to-codify-roe-v-wade/ar-BB1idvut?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3a51cf86a57548e09f4201a6d5f9a84e&ei=48
"Sen. Joe Manchin (D) of West Virginia has co-sponsored what his office called in a press release a “bipartisan effort to codify Roe v. Wade.”

This comes after the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health ruling in June of 2022, which effectively overturned Roe v. Wade"