There are lots of kids who swim at WMPSSDLs, IACs (there were no MACs this year) and ISLs who are not Club swimmers. The range of swimming can be wide. And a lot of teams don't practice relays very often or have less experienced swimmers in relays so the likelihood of early starts is pretty high. Of course, that's less true at Metros.

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Anonymous wrote:Half the DQs at Wmpssdl were for tape.

How does a HS age swimmer not know tape is not allowed??

Tape isn't allowed in summer, club, or any sort of competitive swim. Maybe a bunch of kids who have never swam?

Agree- club swimmers definitely should know this

I think it's a combination. My kid was exhausted from other activities and mixed up what stroke to do as they never swim the same thing at each meet.

Anonymous wrote:Half the DQs at Wmpssdl were for tape.

How does a HS age swimmer not know tape is not allowed??

Tape isn't allowed in summer, club, or any sort of competitive swim. Maybe a bunch of kids who have never swam?

Anonymous wrote:Half the DQs at Wmpssdl were for tape.

How does a HS age swimmer not know tape is not allowed??

More importantly how does their coach not know and fail to instruct their swimmers they can’t have it on to swim. That is a huge coaching fail.

Anonymous wrote:Half the DQs at Wmpssdl were for tape.

How does a HS age swimmer not know tape is not allowed??

As someone who had to tape their kid for the first time this year, we are never told it’s not allowed. Not even in club. It wasn’t until she was about to swim her coach said to take it off.

Half the DQs at Wmpssdl were for tape.

How does a HS age swimmer not know tape is not allowed??

Anonymous wrote:If the meet was a 'PVS Observed Meet' the DQ log is posted with the results https://pvswim.org/hsresults.html from a glance it looks like a lot of kids were called for delay initiating turn

Interestingly the results say there were no DQs at Metros

Having worked these meets as an official, the difference is that under US Swimming Backstroke rules, after a swimmer turns to his/her breast for the turn, the swimmer must immediately began a turning action. The high school rules have no such requirement. At least in the past, the instruction from the meet ref has been to not have S&T raise hands, but rather to notify the CJ or ref who records the infraction separately. The DQs are reflected on US Swimming reports and times are not entered into US Swims, but the swims (absent some other infraction) do count for the purposes of high school league.

Anonymous wrote:At Metros in the relays especially there were a ton, including a record breaking 200 Free relay.

Huge bummer, but it was way early.

Anonymous wrote:If the meet was a 'PVS Observed Meet' the DQ log is posted with the results https://pvswim.org/hsresults.html from a glance it looks like a lot of kids were called for delay initiating turn

Interestingly the results say there were no DQs at Metros

The metros results have them if you get them here: http://rmscswimming.com/metros-2024

Mostly false starts, particularly relay take offs.

The officiating at Metros is notoriously bad and has been for the past 10 years.

At Metros in the relays especially there were a ton, including a record breaking 200 Free relay.

If the meet was a 'PVS Observed Meet' the DQ log is posted with the results https://pvswim.org/hsresults.html from a glance it looks like a lot of kids were called for delay initiating turn

Interestingly the results say there were no DQs at Metros

Maybe some bad calls - I need to look. But usually there are tons of DQs because the VHSL rules vs the USAswimming rules are different.

This weekend at METRO's and last week and WMPSSDLS and well as at MAC and ISLs there were a TON of DQ's. My children were at some combination of those meets. But at looking at the results it felt like every event had at least 2 or 3. Most of these kids are club swimmers, are they just getting sloppy or were there some bad calls?