Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. not medical. possibly work at research institute.

Biology degrees are generally low paying for this type of work. Hopefully you and child understand all this.

Agreed. Not to mention, PhDs for for Biology tend to take VERY long. The work is something I personally love and find fulfilling, but it's not financially rewarding.

Gotta do what you love!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP. not medical. possibly work at research institute.

Biology degrees are generally low paying for this type of work. Hopefully you and child understand all this.

Agreed. Not to mention, PhDs for for Biology tend to take VERY long. The work is something I personally love and find fulfilling, but it's not financially rewarding.

Absent true love of the subject, bio is _the worst_ undergraduate degree.

Anonymous wrote:OP. not medical. possibly work at research institute.

Biology degrees are generally low paying for this type of work. Hopefully you and child understand all this.

Anonymous wrote:Don't have a DC's experiences to share but this is the USNWR list typically for Bio and BioChem:
Stanford University.
University of California Berkeley.
University of California San Francisco.
University of Cambridge.
University of California San Diego.
University of Washington Seattle.
University of Oxford.
Johns Hopkins University.
University of Toronto.
University of California Los Angeles.
Cornell University.

This list seems incorrect. UC San Francisco doesn’t have an undergraduate college.

It's Biology. I second the idea of a university known to have a med school. There will be research.

Yes getting a BS Bio often leads one to get a PhD for research positions. Tho I have heard some go off in their second major such as Psychology. Bio-Psych

Latest data on undergrads of PhDs, can filter by type (biological and biomedical) and college type.
https://www.highereddatastories.com/2023/10/undergraduate-institutions-of-doctoral.html

Among all universities, the most students getting PhDs...
1. Berkeley
2. Cornell
3. U Wisconsin Madison
4. UC Davis
5. UC San Diego

Among small schools
1. Carleton
2. Pomona
3. St. Olaf
4. Oberlin
5. Mount Holyoke

No, but the same idea applies.
That’s just a suggestion of how you can find the talk he gave. Unless your kid is top of the tops, why compete against the pool at Cornell or Hopkins all vying for the same research opportunities. Why not attend a school with a solid program where they can shine and be more competitive for research opportunities.

Anonymous wrote:May be better to be at the top at a school a level or two down from the list. Watch Malcolm Gladwell “Don’t go to Harvard” for reference.

Harvard is not on the T10 for Bio list^, is it?

May be better to be at the top at a school a level or two down from the list. Watch Malcolm Gladwell “Don’t go to Harvard” for reference.

OP. not medical. possibly work at research institute.

OP, what do you really think they will do with a Bio degree? Anything medical, a flagship university with an affiliated med school.

Don't have a DC's experiences to share but this is the USNWR list typically for Bio and BioChem:
Stanford University.
University of California Berkeley.
University of California San Francisco.
University of Cambridge.
University of California San Diego.
University of Washington Seattle.
University of Oxford.
Johns Hopkins University.
University of Toronto.
University of California Los Angeles.
Cornell University.

What universities are top 15 for Bio majors? Large, or small colleges that are better for student wanting to major in Bio?