I have a Frenchie and he’s super cute. Also has a “good nose” as the vet says, and while he snores and grunts more than some dogs we’ve had he seems the picture of health. OP, the best guide is to whether how it will look is cute to you is to look at its parents. Are they cute? If so, likelihood is high. If you don’t get to see the parents don’t buy from that breeder.

The breed has inherent health issues, as others have pointed out. Serious ones. I have had all sorts of dogs, from mutts to labs to boxers. All have had health problems at some point, all have suffered in some way, all have been beloved and happy dogs. The dog who suffered most was probably the boxer, who was congenitally so high strung that he couldn’t have doggie play dates, had to be crated when people came over, etc. Dogs are like people - some get the short end of the genetic stick, and some need c-sections.

Anonymous wrote:Like another poster said, I’m not against people buying dogs from breeders, but I can’t understand how anyone with a conscience could buy a frenchie. Breeding them is so unethical. The dam is put through so much to produce a litter and the resulting pups have serious health problems. It’s an exercise in pure vanity without any regard for the dogs. Honestly, the fact that your dog’s appearance is your number one concern indicates that you’ll fit in well with other frenchie owners.

What do you think happens with other dogs when they are bred? What is the female French "put through" that other dogs are not? There are several breeds that deliver pups via c-sections for instance. And are you seriously claiming that every Frenchie pup has serious health concerns, because surely you must realize that's not true.

I swear, some of you jump on the latest virtue signaling bandwagon with zero information.

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Anonymous wrote:All puppies are cute, even Frenchies. They do tend to have a ton of health issues, and I am not sure how ethical it is to intentionally breed dogs with anatomical features that are inherently problematic. However, if you are concerned about appearance and not terribly concerned about health, and still want a French Bulldog. I'd suggest that you look for a fully grown dog that has the look that you want, perhaps a retired breeder or a show prospect that didn't pan out . You probably won't need to worry about temperament with a Frenchie, they all seem to be nice enough.

These are one of the most unethical dogs to breed. People post "cute" pictures of them sleeping with head propped or with toys in their mouths but they sleep like that because otherwise they can't breath.

Most also need to be born via C-section because the females can not otherwise give birth and would die doing so.

Sorry, I agree. I am not anti-breeder at all and I even purchased a dog from a breeder that most would call a mutt or "designer" breed. But continuing to breed dogs based on looks alone when those looks make for significant health issues just does not seem ethical at all. All those smooshed faces are cute but bad for dogs. Same with dachshunds--do you know ho many end up paralyzed because those little legs cannot support that long back?!

And corgis. And people who breed pits.

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Anonymous wrote:All puppies are cute, even Frenchies. They do tend to have a ton of health issues, and I am not sure how ethical it is to intentionally breed dogs with anatomical features that are inherently problematic. However, if you are concerned about appearance and not terribly concerned about health, and still want a French Bulldog. I'd suggest that you look for a fully grown dog that has the look that you want, perhaps a retired breeder or a show prospect that didn't pan out . You probably won't need to worry about temperament with a Frenchie, they all seem to be nice enough.

These are one of the most unethical dogs to breed. People post "cute" pictures of them sleeping with head propped or with toys in their mouths but they sleep like that because otherwise they can't breath.

Most also need to be born via C-section because the females can not otherwise give birth and would die doing so.

Sorry, I agree. I am not anti-breeder at all and I even purchased a dog from a breeder that most would call a mutt or "designer" breed. But continuing to breed dogs based on looks alone when those looks make for significant health issues just does not seem ethical at all. All those smooshed faces are cute but bad for dogs. Same with dachshunds--do you know ho many end up paralyzed because those little legs cannot support that long back?!

I've known two French bulldogs who lived very long lives (14 and 15 years old) and were in great heath.

Like another poster said, I’m not against people buying dogs from breeders, but I can’t understand how anyone with a conscience could buy a frenchie. Breeding them is so unethical. The dam is put through so much to produce a litter and the resulting pups have serious health problems. It’s an exercise in pure vanity without any regard for the dogs. Honestly, the fact that your dog’s appearance is your number one concern indicates that you’ll fit in well with other frenchie owners.

Like any dog breed, there are deviations in features and markings even among purebreds. Sometimes those deviations can cause Frenchies (and similar dogs) to look a bit odd.

I don't get the appeal

The fact that you're very worried about getting an ugly dog and not at all worried about the inherent health problems is why they are so inbred and ironically why so many end up looking weird.

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Anonymous wrote:All puppies are cute, even Frenchies. They do tend to have a ton of health issues, and I am not sure how ethical it is to intentionally breed dogs with anatomical features that are inherently problematic. However, if you are concerned about appearance and not terribly concerned about health, and still want a French Bulldog. I'd suggest that you look for a fully grown dog that has the look that you want, perhaps a retired breeder or a show prospect that didn't pan out . You probably won't need to worry about temperament with a Frenchie, they all seem to be nice enough.

These are one of the most unethical dogs to breed. People post "cute" pictures of them sleeping with head propped or with toys in their mouths but they sleep like that because otherwise they can't breath.

Most also need to be born via C-section because the females can not otherwise give birth and would die doing so.

This ^^

I’m not opposed to breeding dogs but frenchies are pretty hard to defend.

Anonymous wrote:All puppies are cute, even Frenchies. They do tend to have a ton of health issues, and I am not sure how ethical it is to intentionally breed dogs with anatomical features that are inherently problematic. However, if you are concerned about appearance and not terribly concerned about health, and still want a French Bulldog. I'd suggest that you look for a fully grown dog that has the look that you want, perhaps a retired breeder or a show prospect that didn't pan out . You probably won't need to worry about temperament with a Frenchie, they all seem to be nice enough.

These are one of the most unethical dogs to breed. People post "cute" pictures of them sleeping with head propped or with toys in their mouths but they sleep like that because otherwise they can't breath.

Most also need to be born via C-section because the females can not otherwise give birth and would die doing so.

They are all ugly. Some photos are cute.

All puppies are cute, even Frenchies. They do tend to have a ton of health issues, and I am not sure how ethical it is to intentionally breed dogs with anatomical features that are inherently problematic. However, if you are concerned about appearance and not terribly concerned about health, and still want a French Bulldog. I'd suggest that you look for a fully grown dog that has the look that you want, perhaps a retired breeder or a show prospect that didn't pan out . You probably won't need to worry about temperament with a Frenchie, they all seem to be nice enough.

I think we want one for our next family dog but I don’t understand why so many are so ugly — but then some on instagram are adorable. Anyone know what I mean? How do we avoid getting an ugly one? Or is it hard to tell if they’ll be ugly when they’re puppies?