Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 21:08     Subject: Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In our experience, coach picks based on bonus events, group plans and taper schedules. Might do both.

Which meet doesn’t matter, but getting most swims is usually a consideration.


Looks like bonus events are only for Sr Champs. What are timed trials and how do they differ from a bonus event?


Time trials are a non-competitive meet entry. They are run at the end of the session for kids to get an official time. The swimmer has to pay separately and register day of to swim these.


Actually it’s considered a separate session. Easiest way to get an OQM session credit you can find.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 16:10     Subject: Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

It sounds like they changed the meet and the swimmers have to go to JOs or Sr champs only. That’s a shame— when my daughter was 13 she did distance events at Jr champs and that worked out really well for her.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 14:12     Subject: Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Anonymous wrote:IMX is only 11 months and 3 weeks away. They should probably just be focusing on practices instead of these meets


LOL-too funny
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 11:26     Subject: Re:Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If the swimmer made the JO cut by a lot, and he has competition that you’ve seen from other meets, I’d pick that. To simply make a cut for the other meets and be at the bottom (no finals) makes little sense to me.


Agree, but all 3 of her strokes make the Jr Champs cuts but only 2 of the 3 make the JO cut. I’d prefer not to do both meets but I guess go to Jr Champs to swim the one stroke and JO for the others?


Will the group do one of the more open meets as well? Such as RMSC Spring Finale. Is the coach giving choices?

With limited cuts, depending on group (is this a 9th grader in a HS group or are there a lot of 13-14s?), my experience would be the coach taking kids where they have a full meet. Since the swimmer can only swim their best events at one of the championship meets, they still may be attending two meets.

I have definitely seen going to JOs for the one QT and something Spring Finale as the full end of season meet. If those junior champs cuts also exclude her from events at a meet with "No faster than" times, maybe then it's the three swims at junior champs, and a few more at Spring Finale.

This may also play in (from juniors announcement)... Swimmers must have equaled or bettered the applicable Qualifying Times listed and have not achieved a faster time than the 2024 SC Senior Champ QT or the 2024 PVS JO 13-14 Qualifying Time.
My youngest is 15+ now, so I'm not looking at these cuts, but this makes it sound like the JO cuts are slightly faster than juniors and your swimmer may be bound by these rules for what can be swam at each meet.

The bottom line for me is your coach will figure this out and give her options if there are any.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 11:12     Subject: Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In our experience, coach picks based on bonus events, group plans and taper schedules. Might do both.

Which meet doesn’t matter, but getting most swims is usually a consideration.


Looks like bonus events are only for Sr Champs. What are timed trials and how do they differ from a bonus event?


Time trials are a non-competitive meet entry. They are run at the end of the session for kids to get an official time. The swimmer has to pay separately and register day of to swim these.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 10:02     Subject: Re:Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Anonymous wrote:If the swimmer made the JO cut by a lot, and he has competition that you’ve seen from other meets, I’d pick that. To simply make a cut for the other meets and be at the bottom (no finals) makes little sense to me.


For girls, the 13-14 JO cuts and Junior Champs cuts are basically the same, and as far as finals go more often than not 16th at junior champs is actually slower than 16th at JOs so it’s really up to whatever the coach thinks is best.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 09:39     Subject: Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

IMX is only 11 months and 3 weeks away. They should probably just be focusing on practices instead of these meets
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 07:59     Subject: Re:Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Anonymous wrote:If the swimmer made the JO cut by a lot, and he has competition that you’ve seen from other meets, I’d pick that. To simply make a cut for the other meets and be at the bottom (no finals) makes little sense to me.


Agree, but all 3 of her strokes make the Jr Champs cuts but only 2 of the 3 make the JO cut. I’d prefer not to do both meets but I guess go to Jr Champs to swim the one stroke and JO for the others?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 07:00     Subject: Re:Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

If the swimmer made the JO cut by a lot, and he has competition that you’ve seen from other meets, I’d pick that. To simply make a cut for the other meets and be at the bottom (no finals) makes little sense to me.
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 06:40     Subject: Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Jr/Sr Champs is for open swimmers

Jr champs = slower cuts, Sr Champs= faster cuts. It’s actually the same meet just with different cuts

14& Under is the faster meet for Age group swimmers
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 04:58     Subject: Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Anonymous wrote:In our experience, coach picks based on bonus events, group plans and taper schedules. Might do both.

Which meet doesn’t matter, but getting most swims is usually a consideration.


Looks like bonus events are only for Sr Champs. What are timed trials and how do they differ from a bonus event?
Anonymous
Post 02/02/2024 04:15     Subject: Re:Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Anonymous wrote:Good birthday?


October?
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2024 21:58     Subject: Re:Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Good birthday?
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2024 20:39     Subject: Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

In our experience, coach picks based on bonus events, group plans and taper schedules. Might do both.

Which meet doesn’t matter, but getting most swims is usually a consideration.
Anonymous
Post 02/01/2024 20:34     Subject: Cuts for both Jr Champs & 14 & U

Is one meet preferred over the other? Swimmer made 1 -14 & U cut but 2 Jr Champ cuts.