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Anonymous wrote:Wondering if it will help my DC with deferrals as he has an A in there.

Also taking 3 other AP's and has straight A's

Depends what school. My kid was taking 5 APs last year and a college math class and every deferral turned into a waitlist

Omg what schools?? Where are they now?

"Consider that classes commonly thought of as the most challenging AP classes (like Physics C: Mechanics and Japanese) have high passing rates while classes often considered easier (like Human Geography and U.S. Government and Politics) are among the classes with the lowest passing rates.

There are a number of factors that can skew pass rates. For example, Chinese attracts a small, highly specialized group of students, many of whom have prior familiarity with language—just 15,277 students took the exam in 2022. Compare that to a class like Human Geography, which saw 221,815 test-takers in 2022.

Additionally, it’s not uncommon for classes with higher pass rates to have more stringent prerequisites at some schools, which filters out unqualified students."

https://blog.collegevine.com/ap-classes-ranked-by-difficulty

My kid who has had no prob with other APs (french, lang, gov) thought it was hard. One of them harder- i think micro- than the other. also the test is harder for the first one you take bc class ends after semester but test is 5 months later.

Anonymous wrote:this chart is often copied and always wrong.


why is Chinese "easier"? bcs kids who speak Chinese take it. A lot of times kids who speak it at home. People who don't know Chinese don't take it. it's "easy" and takes "less time" once you've put in 15 years or so speaking the language and going to Saturday school.

some tests are "harder" simply because more kids take them and thus they have the highest failure rate. lots of schools have 50%+ of their grade take APUSH when its' really suited to the top 20%.

etc etc

Yeah, the misinterpretation of this chart is sort of unbelievable. You have to take into account the self selection of who takes which classes.

The clearest example is AP Calc AB vs BC...AB is objectively easier than BC (i.e., BC covers twice as much material as AB, i.e., it covers in one semester what AB covers in a year). Yet, despite being harder, BC has a higher pass rate. Why? Because the kids who self select into BC are either stronger math students or have already taken AB (or both).

Clearly, we need an AP data literacy class in this country.

PP again, AP Econ was one of the APs. Also straight As

Anonymous wrote:Wondering if it will help my DC with deferrals as he has an A in there.

Also taking 3 other AP's and has straight A's

Depends what school. My kid was taking 5 APs last year and a college math class and every deferral turned into a waitlist

Anonymous wrote:this chart is often copied and always wrong.


why is Chinese "easier"? bcs kids who speak Chinese take it. A lot of times kids who speak it at home. People who don't know Chinese don't take it. it's "easy" and takes "less time" once you've put in 15 years or so speaking the language and going to Saturday school.

some tests are "harder" simply because more kids take them and thus they have the highest failure rate. lots of schools have 50%+ of their grade take APUSH when its' really suited to the top 20%.

etc etc

Also that chart is data only from girls.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this chart is often copied and always wrong.


why is Chinese "easier"? bcs kids who speak Chinese take it. A lot of times kids who speak it at home. People who don't know Chinese don't take it. it's "easy" and takes "less time" once you've put in 15 years or so speaking the language and going to Saturday school.

some tests are "harder" simply because more kids take them and thus they have the highest failure rate. lots of schools have 50%+ of their grade take APUSH when its' really suited to the top 20%.

etc etc

If you look at the stats on AP Chinese you'll see that when it started, it was the class with the most 5's. This has gone down every year since, due to the fact the college board has made it harder and not geared it directly at native Chinese speakers. Its one of the hardest AP's to pass.

Why are you lying about such a stupid topic, in a thread that already posted the evidence that proves you wrong?

Chinese has the highest AP pass rate, 88%, and the highest 5 rate, 54%, both higher than the courses that don't even have a test!

https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/about-ap-scores/score-distributions

Anonymous wrote:this chart is often copied and always wrong.


why is Chinese "easier"? bcs kids who speak Chinese take it. A lot of times kids who speak it at home. People who don't know Chinese don't take it. it's "easy" and takes "less time" once you've put in 15 years or so speaking the language and going to Saturday school.

some tests are "harder" simply because more kids take them and thus they have the highest failure rate. lots of schools have 50%+ of their grade take APUSH when its' really suited to the top 20%.

etc etc

If you look at the stats on AP Chinese you'll see that when it started, it was the class with the most 5's. This has gone down every year since, due to the fact the college board has made it harder and not geared it directly at native Chinese speakers. Its one of the hardest AP's to pass.

this chart is often copied and always wrong.


why is Chinese "easier"? bcs kids who speak Chinese take it. A lot of times kids who speak it at home. People who don't know Chinese don't take it. it's "easy" and takes "less time" once you've put in 15 years or so speaking the language and going to Saturday school.

some tests are "harder" simply because more kids take them and thus they have the highest failure rate. lots of schools have 50%+ of their grade take APUSH when its' really suited to the top 20%.

etc etc

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wondering if it will help my DC with deferrals as he has an A in there.

Also taking 3 other AP's and has straight A's

AP Macro/micro is on the bottom rung with other easy exam

Beware of that chart. Not all kids find the same things easy or hard, and the AOs don’t all have the same opinions.

It’s definitely not one of the throwaway APs, even though there’s less reading than for the history APs. DS did it after AP us Gov/ APUSH / AP World, and it tied neatly into his international affairs major.

All good, OP.

Anonymous wrote:Wondering if it will help my DC with deferrals as he has an A in there.

Also taking 3 other AP's and has straight A's

AP Macro/micro is on the bottom rung with other easy exam

Meant to add also taking ap stat Spanish and lit

Wondering if it will help my DC with deferrals as he has an A in there.

Also taking 3 other AP's and has straight A's